That looked like the plan used by Capitol Police except at the end they just held the door for them.
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I’m joking in invoking 4chan memes, of course, but if their objective was to seize political power or overthrow the government, they were utterly unprepared and failed miserably. I absolutely agree that they used terrifying and illegal violence–trespassed, broke & entered, assaulted, menaced, whatever you want–and that the situation was extremely hostile and dangerous, but it seems to me that the powers that be are all unharmed and still in power. I’d only heard about 1 death.
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Yeah I’m sure if we give the state even more tools to go after extremists it’ll be used the right way this time around. The problem before was the DHS and FBI didn’t have the right tools and laws to really go after the guys who plan government takeovers and threaten lives
https://twitter.com/forestautonomy/status/1347337643562921985?s=21
https://twitter.com/will_potter/status/1347378820916109312?s=21
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Fatboy8
January 8, 2021, 4:27pm
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So I was concerned with violence pretty quickly after the election but I’ve changed that outlook to a lot of violence beginning the 2nd week of December. Trump is going to keep fanning the flames until the fire really gets going.
Who is going to show up to fight for this loser?
I don’t believe all of the magaderps are pussys, especially in a group. One of the clashes will result in gunfire, and then probably a lot of gun fire.
I’m pretty shook. Tweets this morning are --><-- close to inciting violence, “real patriots must take to the streets to prevent the stolen election” type stuff. Next 2 months is going to be brutal. There is zero doubt he is going to attempt a coup, its not going to be old man tweeting from the toilet stuff, he’s going to try to get people to keep him in power.
I assume he already has… but the military has already spoken so he’s not going to get any takers. Mark Miley was the FL of the coup, if Trump lost him it was all over. And what’s worse is that all of the other people who might have maybe in a weird way considered it know this.
I hope someone who wants immunity from future federal prosecution taped Trump trying to get them to carry out a coup as a precaution. I’m looking forward to that tape.
I’m pretty annoyed with the social media companies t…
I have zero concern now. I was worried about a lot violence before the election, but if was going to try something he would have done it already before the votes got counted. If there was going to be mass violence it already would have happened or be happening.
Then again the delusion is so strong with them they think he’s going to win in court still. So maybe thats why they’re holding off, when it finally hits the most delusional ones who knows.
I feel like he’s phoning this in so he can just…
They’re all just placating Trump because he controls their futures. Couple mean tweets by him could sink Republicans totally. They will lick his boots, but they aren’t going to try a legit coup for him and literally risk their lives.
Their only shot was the supreme court giving them the victory. They just can’t on their own just decide to declare Trump the winner lol. And its pretty clear the court is not going to do that, there are no legit lawsuits that could even make it to them.
Wonder if …
Counterpoint: He has twice in the last two days come really close to accidentally admitting Biden won. He’s not doing jack shit right now except tweeting. Lone wolf violence is possible, but an overt coup? That seems really really really unlikely at this point.
He is a coward and most of his fans are cowards. Being scared of everything is what makes someone a trump fan.
Sure there might be isolated violence but we are close to drawing dead to widespread violence and a coup is like 10,000:1.
For the derps on my social media, there isn’t one of them that believes that Trump won’t be president on 1/20/21. They absolutely have not accepted the Trump loss. They absolutely 100% believe that Trump is going to prevail in court or when the secret about dominion voting machines comes out.
The electoral votes are certified on what, Dec 14? Thats when I figure the shit hits the fan.
Again, this is a cult. Cults have managed to get their followers to suicide themselves while awaiting the spaceship to carry them off or whatever the fuck.
Fucking the Bundy’s managed to get a few dozen assholes to hole themselves up in a federal building and have a standoff with federal officers and get a couple of themselves killed.
You guys don’t think that out of the million or whatever proud boys folks there aren’t a few thousand that can be drummed up to start shooting? I"m guessing if y…
There is likely violence to come, but it’s not going to result in a successful coup.
No, I don’t expect a coup. Never have. Just violence.
I know a Proud Boy. He brags about having over 500K rounds of ammo. He’s been stocking up for years. He’s a business owner and employs about 10 people. He has admitted that his life will not change with Biden being President. He ain’t gonna do shit. The vast majority of Trump supporters live sheltered lives where they have the convenience to whine about things they don’t like. 99.99% of them aren’t going to do something that will intentionally make their own lives harder. Yes, there will be rand…
I think there’s a good chance on Dec. 14 after the states certify, they will invent another theory about how Trump will prevail before Jan. 20, then on Jan 20 after Biden is sworn in yet ,another theory created and so on.
I think there’s a good chance on Dec. 14 after the states certify, they will invent another theory about how Trump will prevail before Jan. 20, then on Jan 20 after Biden is sworn in yet ,another theory created and so on.
There is always a chance that some hostile idiot or just neglectful bigot makes a mistake that costs lives and fans flames that burst into a wildfire. That can go both ways.
But for the most part, those atrocities happen at such scale that they will never disrupt the modern paradigm and life as most of us know it. It will either be a part of our story or a part of the news, but it won’t be new, and the people who do anything won’t inspire a nationwide violent coup.
Knock on wood. It’s just so …
https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/3017/2489
https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/3017/2489
And maybe the best foreshadowing:
What if they kill 5? What’s the number that NBD.
Inciting violence is inciting violence. If any of these guys do something he needs to be indicted.
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Yeah we have no shortage of laws, the problem is that the cops agree with the terrorists.
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Fatboy8
January 8, 2021, 4:31pm
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I also woke up this morning and considered ourselves extremely lucky. Seems like a huge missed opportunity for an enterprising foreign terrorist to have been in this riot with a bomb vest and detonating himself inside the House, taking out a bunch of trumpers as well as part of the building.
l would imagine there’s a bunch of cells planning on doing something like that if this happens again.
Krayz
January 8, 2021, 4:32pm
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Why is this second impeachment taking so long. Get it fucking done
This is the derpers on chiefsplanet’s take basically.
Probably because 90% of the Dem party is complicit/incompetent and never intends to do anything other than tweet and give TV interviews.
They should have voted Thursday morning.
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I was feeling left out until the end.
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Probably because they don’t have the votes in the Senate and they know it.
If they do it and fail, Trump has even more immunity to be completely insane.
Making the Republicans vote on it seems like a political win if nothing else. Some will defect, but most wont. There is also the symbolism of, I dunno, actually doing the right thing regardless of the political calculus.
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MrWookie:
Ah yes, brilliant idea. By tying the attack to a dead cop, we’ll tickle that deeply held belief in all conservatives and therefore win them over to our cause to oust Trump because he violated their core principles.
I appreciate the humor and the point, but there is a squishy center between “ACAB” and “MAGA.” And right now the dems totally have won over a decent chunk of it. See, ie: all suburbs everywhere, but especially Georgia. There’s definitely some more that can be picked up by messaging off of “trump’s people murdered a cop.” There is literally no downside to messaging off of it, because the defund the police group don’t want cops murdered either.
If they don’t have the votes in the Senate it might be good for the house to impeach and then the Senate can schedule a trial at any time and vote on it on a few hours notice if shit gets too crazy.
God I fucking hate Republicans so much. They are worse than traitors. Just absolute fucking scum. These motherfuckers deserve whatever fate causes them the most immense and lasting personal anguish. Just complete pieces of shit. Mitt excepted.
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There’s a caucus call at noon today after which they’re expected to announce that everyone needs to come back to DC.
I’m stupid but I’m holding out hope that Pence is going to shiv him unexpectedly.
Like 0.05% hope.
Trolly
January 8, 2021, 4:38pm
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This is going to be the fastest impeachment in history by far, FWIW.