That post wasnât in direct reply to you, it was just a thought I had circulating for awhile. I canât always post my thoughts when they occur to me because Iâm constantly getting banned. My last ban was for saying that I think threads talking about frequent flier miles are boring. Yes, I know that sounds like Iâm lying.
Sort by categories and only read the threads you are interested in.
exciting!
Jmonster Iâve always liked you but I assume youâre gonna hate me after this because itâs why most people hate me here:
Thatâs the twoplustwo login page, screenshot taken 45 seconds ago.
Also, exactly, and Mason wasnât very left-leaning.
Iâm not gonna tell people what they should find interesting, and all Iâve ever asked is that they reciprocate and not deride me for what I find interesting. Because the âleft-leaningâ forum doing âyou know, hitler had some good ideas: forum versionâ is heads and shoulders above the most interesting thing to ever happen in this forum.
Not for me, itâs at the very bottom
But I donât hate anyone on this site lol. Literally nothing said here would upset me because I donât think we should be taking any of this stuff so seriously
lol i swear i havenât touched anything and i donât think iâve even logged in for years, but this is how it looks for me upon logging in:
i always remembered ATF being top and first though even back in the day
Internet posting isnât real life politics though and creating complicated systems with diffused power for running this place has been a total disaster.
I would rather have one authoritarian site owner who 99% of the community trusts to do the right thing just run everything behind the scenes instead of having a constant meta conversation about modding and site drama. Itâs imperfect and doesnât align with how I would build a real life community, but itâs a lot more practical and would head off so much of this stuff.
You are.
Jfc get hold of a mirror.
They all say that until the first ban.
No argument there, and some of the complicated systems they/weâve had here almost seem like parody, but what I was getting at was that internet posting and real life politics have one big thing in common, human interaction, and
Man I typed that and got stuck, and I stared at this shit off an on for hours because I felt like the way to properly articulate it was on the tip of my tongue (donât feel obligated to reply and get roped into a conversation btw lol, but if you do want to say more itâs more than welcome):
The complicated systems are the moderation! This is a group of under 100 adults just hanging out and shooting the shit. Normal actual adults with 9to5s and spouses and children and homes owned and what not. Who have known each other for almost two decades now and sometimes get in heated arguments and disagreements. Thinking that needs to be policed with rules and punishments is the thing that turns it from jusâ postinâ to some real life political structure, whereby community and society will collapse without steadfast active work.
And theyâre not totally incorrect! So Iâm like, ok, sure, letâs talk about it, itâs your conversation. Thereâs one real simple way to nix a whole lot of the talk about moderation.
(âWe shouldnât be talking about moderation!â
âOh, believe me, I know!â)
Barring that, yeah some of the ModelUN was/is silly, but itâs a response to this pathological need for their to be some sort of formal structure to begin with. And the analogues of bigger political structures write themselves:
âIf you donât want to get in trouble and go to jail, donât break the lawâ is some wild shit. Iâm not exaggerating in the slightest when I say that under the current precedent, your original post here,
would and should get you banned. And thatâs absurd.
That works until it also becomes a disaster, we all found out. Itâs that whole âthe ~entire community trusts to do the right thingâ thing that falls apart fast when it falls apart. Weâre basically at the stage of the Milgram Experiment where the whole thing was paused, the shocker was informed by the doctors itâs not real, and the shockers are upset and lashing out because theyâre disappointed itâs not real.
I was gonna make an AM thread in the new forum but like my daddy always done told me, the devil you know is better than the devil you donât know.
Is it invite-only? I believe the official advertisement and grand proclamation stated all were welcome.
Literally the only reason for you to join that site is to troll.
I donât troll so Iâm not sure why Iâd start now but anything is possible I guess.
Iâd actually join if there was an about moderation thread, which there will be, in time. It might not be called that for dignityâs sake but human psychology is human psychology. Because, Iâm totally sincere when I say how much I find all this endlessly fascinating. I think the reason I rub you a weird way is because youâve become accustomed to insincerity.
Real good post right here
