It’s not everyone, but the people who post very little in actual threads because they made their own forum to discuss casual topics on while spending hours a day posting about moderation here?
Genuine insanity this has been allowed for years.
There isn’t another place on the internet stupid enough to fall for the trolling that existed.
Where are the most interesting serious threads that don’t have the same guy derailing them to prattle on at great length about tedious stuff from his personal life that no one’s interested in?
I am truly confused by this take. For it to be true, the “captains” would have to have,
posted with us all for years on 2+2
helped us all form the former site
helped us all form this site
post together with little incident for a couple years
all to collectively spring their “trolling plan” on us two years ago
Isn’t it more likely some decisions were made that lead to people feeling ignored and left out and these same people have spent two years here not because they find trolling fun but because they have a real sense of community that they wish could be restored.
I simply don’t believe they are all just evil trolls out to destroy something they spent years helping build.
It’s fine to not like jmakin. No problem. But you have a jmakin free zone.
The stone cutters is one of the best Simpsons episodes. This place is like if the next 3 seasons was the stonecutters, after kicking homer out and creating the no homers just came to his home and whined about him. Riveting television.
You are truly remembering 2p2 with the rose tinted glasses of an ex gf you’re longing for rather than remembering it wasn’t a good relationship.
Most of the people have been trolls from since 2p2. You are correct that people don’t change overnight. They didn’t! No one here posts in a wildly different way than they did 5 years ago.
I think that’s more because spidercrab doesn’t want to do any “real” admin or mod type stuff (he’s an admin just as a backup and to do a few tasks) and so he may have asked goofyballer to think about it for a while before going through with it but I’m purely speculating.
I covered this in the thread about deleting accounts
Goreo was seemingly able to just click the “delete all posts” button and everything worked fine, when I did it it would fail after deleting 50ish posts and I’d have to reclick it, so the only time I deleted someone’s account I had to write a script to click the delete posts button and leave it running all night.
Site settings were also modified so that mods can only delete all posts if the poster has 15 or fewer so now account deletion involves an admin changing a handful of settings to allow it to happen at all.
A large majority chose either not to honor deletion requests, or to do anonymization and not deletion. I don’t really care though and it’s probably fine with me if people want to delete their accounts if the admins don’t mind doing it.
I’m posting this as someone who has hated the divison from the start and wouldn’t consider myself part of either team and has no one I consider an enemy. It seems very clear what happened was:
-UP was very lightly moderated, there were problems but they were mostly hashed out in the threads themselves to varying degrees of ugliness.
-Some felt we needed more moderation. Some felt we needed codified rules. Some felt we needed nothing. Factions started to build around this period.
-jmakin dropped the pm thread to the whole forum which ignited ww3.
-There was some very bitter posting which followed. I know I regret some things I said during that time. I can’t be alone in that.
-The divide deepened with the less moderation faction forming their own site and the more moderation faction trying to apply moderating here to achieve the goal of a less vitriol filled site.
-This resulted in lots of bans, specifically of a few posters over and over which further deepened the divide.
-With not much left to lose and plenty of bad feelings towards the powers that be here various levels of troll campaigns were launched which led to more bans which led to more animosity which led to more bans and on and on. And lets be real if the roles were reversed people from here would have trolled nmnm so that isn’t a dig. It’s natural to lash out when you feel like you have been wronged.
I fully wish we could all co-exist. Same as you clovis. I am just pretty skeptical you can undo almost 2 years of the above.