A Call to Ban NotBruceZ for Consistently Endorsing Violence

[anon10387340]

@Trolly

You had to be a special sort of dickhead to get perma’d.

O really?

(Unless you’re talking specifically about getting permed by Wookie…)

[cassette]

@Vict0ar

@anon38180840

If you want anyone from here having any chance to change the world in any way, be it by producing content that could influence people, running for office, etc, then it would behoove us not to make those people defend content that is beyond the pale.

also, its the internet so no one is anonymous.

imo

edit* you edited out what I responded to. meh.

[tabbaker]

I’m not trolling this is a serious question. Posting tweets/videos of Republicans calling for violence is ok so are we allowed to post Democrats or Leftists doing the same?

[anon38180840]

Actually what I’ve said repeatededly that I want to do, that a lot of posters expressed interest in several months ago, was creating platforms and avenues for those here that wished to to be able to get their voices out there.

I’m sorry that my desire to do that is interfering with your desire to read other people’s violent rhetoric on the Internet.

Whether or not I ever run from office is a separate issue, but I think there are several posters here who would be awesome in Congress, and like dozens who would be waaaaaay above replacement level, and I’m sure a handful have considered it… So maybe keeping this place remotely civil is a good idea.

[anon38180840]

Yes, pretty much anything a newsmaker says is newsworthy and is fair game. But if you comment in support of violence, that’d be a problem.

[jmakin]

if nbz makes this post does this get him banned?

@Riverman

I truly think this all only stops at the barrel of a gun. Luckily Trump is stupid and has pissed off all the career military people.

[anon10387340]

It’s not a threat, so it shouldn’t, but yes it probably would.

[LouisCyphre]

I have pointed out before that NBZ‘s problem is his body of work not a single post in a vacuum.

[Riverman]

I assume this is obvious, but I meant Trump will not ever willingly leave office. So after he’s impeached, removed or loses an election guys with guns are going to have to show up to physically remove him from the White House.

[jmakin]

It wasnt directed as a slight against you. I’m just pointing out that shouldnt ever be a remotely banworthy post yet I know the panty twists that would happen if bruce made it.

[ripdog]

Nobody cares if you’re a mod or not. Hilarious aside: My predictive text gave “bitch” as an option after I typed ‘Nobody cares if you’re a’. The people who vote set rules, but good on you for looking out for the 260 plus who didn’t give enough of a shit to vote.

[Trolly]

@LouisCyphre

I have pointed out before that NBZ‘s problem is his body of work not a single post in a vacuum.

This. I’m not comfortable with Riverman’s post here and I’d be okay with it getting deleted, but let’s not pretend that this “gotcha” game validates what NBZ has been doing.

[tabbaker]

I am comfortable with Riverman’s post.

[jmakin]

No one is pretending anything. There’s examples like that all over this forum. Cuze doesn’t like nbz so he gets more heavily scrutinized.

Either the post is unacceptable or it isn’t. It’s extremely hypocritical and transparent to say “well…”

[Trolly]

@jmakin

No one is pretending anything. There’s examples like that all over this forum. Cuze doesn’t like nbz so he gets more heavily scrutinized.

Either the post is unacceptable or it isn’t. It’s extremely hypocritical and transparent to say “well…”

I’m sure we all say things that cross the line from time to time. If you can’t see how that’s different from NBZ’s body of work, I don’t know what to tell you.

[anon38180840]

@jmakin

if nbz makes this post does this get him banned?

@Riverman

I truly think this all only stops at the barrel of a gun. Luckily Trump is stupid and has pissed off all the career military people.

I don’t know, did it get him banned the last time he made almost that exact post… yesterday?

@NotBruceZ

I’m optimistic that if he refused to leave the White House, a gun will literally be pointed at him by someone willing to pull the trigger.

If you’re going to troll me, pay more attention.

@jmakin

No one is pretending anything. There’s examples like that all over this forum. Cuze doesn’t like nbz so he gets more heavily scrutinized.

This is total bullshit. Show any examples of me disliking NBZ that didn’t pop up with this exact series of confrontations over violent rhetoric. You won’t find it.

And how did I become aware of the series of posts with violent rhetoric? Almost every time a user flagged a post, it was NBZ.

[anon38180840]

Thanks @jmakin, turns out NotBruceZ made another post calling for violence that had gone unnoticed… until I went through his posts to find the one I let fly yesterday to respond to your trolling. I started a thread to log key moderator actions, starting with a warning to another user in that thread and a 48 hour suspension for NotBruceZ.

Log of Key Moderator Actions

I’m going to post some moderator actions that rise above confirming other people’s flags to unilaterally removing posts for reasons other than spam or to banning users for any period of time. I issued a warning to @Rivaldo for this post and hid it: He’ll be getting a temp ban if he calls for violence again. And in reply to that, @NotBruceZ earned himself a 48 hour break for this one for advocating violence, which I also hid.

Folks can discuss that here or there.

[cassette]

@jmakin

It wasnt directed as a slight against you. I’m just pointing out that shouldnt ever be a remotely banworthy post yet I know the panty twists that would happen if bruce made it.

Could you make your point without the misogyny?

I guess, “My feelings are hurt that your feelings are hurt” doesn’t have the same ring.

[jmakin]

You need a life dude. Like for real. Get a grip. Like you literally just trawled his posts looking for a reason to ban him to try to what, make some kind of point? Because you’re pissed off? To “gotcha” me?

You’re fucking unhinged dude and I could not possibly care less if he’s banned. What I do care about are thin skinned, dictatorial mods who seem to want to shape this site in their own image.

I’m really glad my gut instinct was right. The whole “community rules” vibe of the old site was a pure ruse and I knew it the whole time.

[anon38180840]

@jmakin

You need a life dude. Like for real. Get a grip. Like you literally just trawled his posts looking for a reason to ban him to try to what, make some kind of point?

As I said, I went through his posts to find the one that I let go yesterday to quote it in response to you claiming I’d ban him for the same thing. In going back through his last day or two of posts, I found the one in question. So it was literally thanks to your trolling that I found it.

@jmakin

You’re fucking unhinged dude

Fuck you.

@jmakin

I could not possibly care less if he’s banned.

That really comes through in your posting.

@jmakin

What I do care about are thin skinned, dictatorial mods who seem to want to shape this site in their own image.

Fuck you again.

@jmakin

I’m really glad my gut instinct was right. The whole “community rules” vibe of the old site was a pure ruse and I knew it the whole time.

LOL

I’ve asserted myself on one thing: violent rhetoric. I created a landing spot for us, then mostly stepped back and just participated in the process from there.

I’m one of several mods, I don’t own the site, I don’t have access to the funds or a clue where they even are, I make no decisions about running the site outside of the moderating I do, and you’re this triggered over one moderating issue.

Meanwhile, where have you been to be found when people were trying to make rules? When we were looking for mods? In any sort of leadership position at all? Were you on any committees and did you participate? Or are you just here to attack/troll the people who actually stepped up to get shit done? Cause I don’t see you signing up to help make rules.

So good for you man, you’re really doing a great job around here.