Lol I understand. I haven’t lifted a weight since last March. I use to go pretty hard at lifting heavy things up and putting them down for the 20 years prior.
I’ve been doing push-ups at least 5 days a week since last March though. I’m 250ish lbs so there is still some weight being worked.
I’m definitely more flexible than I have been in forever and hitting the golf ball farther than I ever have. I may never go back to real lifting.
The last time I did cleans it messed up my elbow. I don’t do any more yanking exercises. Anything pulling I do slow and steady and don’t go too heavy.
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Come on, it definitely wasn’t unique. Do you think that YTF was the only short, obese, middle-aged white guy? There are plenty of people out there just like him and I’m sure plenty of them will tell you how bad hunger is for them. That’s not abnormal at all.
YTF’s problem was that he thought that feeling was insurmountable. It clearly wasn’t. He overcame it himself.
Well if it helps, remember Mason doesn’t own 22 anymore.
It is incredibly abnormal. He said the first thing he thought about after devouring a king’s breakfast was when the next meal started. That is extremely weird, yet none of the self-sucking experts in that thread picked up on it, instead pretending like it was a normal thing for everyone. My breakfast is a fistful of fruit, two eggs, and a few pieces of bacon, and never in my life have I had such a thought. The only food-related thoughts I have during or after eating is that I need to stop before I get sick. YTF was doing secret rendezvous in the military to sneak food. That’s fucked up. His family also struggled with it.
He didn’t overcome anything. He starved himself for a while then regained all of the weight and died. It’s just another case of Biggest Loser which is what happens when people take advice from unqualified hacks.
Maybe we’re using abnormal differently. Probably what I should have said was not uncommon. And it’s not. There are tons of obese people out there and I’m sure many of them react to hunger pretty much that way.
By his own admission he didn’t starve himself. If you look at his log, once he got into the routine, he said he never really felt hungry
He didn’t gain it all back from what I understand. His peak was 380, he got down to the 180s. Photos from around the time he died put him at about 250. Also, regaining weight is very common when the advice comes from qualified non-hacks. There was advice given for what he should do to maintain. He didn’t want to do it. Partially because everyone was just piling on him constantly in his log. I would separate that from the actual advice that was given, which I’m sure we could find at least one qualified non-hack to agree was sound.
He was huge before he died after working his ass off to achieve a normal weight for the first time in forever, so obviously nothing was solved by any of it. Again, it’s just Biggest Loser model. Armed with all of his new-found nutrition knowledge, the dam broke and he spiraled out of control which was obvious when he stopped posting. So how can that possibly happen if he’s thin, knowledgeable, and not hungry?
Well, you said he gained it all back. He didn’t.
As far as “nothing was solved”, that’s impossible to say. Maybe he dies a year earlier if left to his own devices.
It’s the same reason why some alcoholics need to keep going to AA meetings even when they are sober. It’s easy to fall of the wagon. He had a life-long, really fucked up relationship with food. He as addicted to eating.
22 was pretty dysfunctional as far as support groups go, but I think if he had just kept his log active, it would have helped a lot. Obviously a dedicated professional would have been better. But that is not something he was interested in doing. I don’t think anyone would have discouraged him from pursuing that.
What I never really understood about the health and fitness forum was the general ethos of heavy lifting above all else. I like running, doing some high intensity cardio, yoga, and relatively moderate lifting and I never felt like I fit in there because my reasons for working out have very little to do with achieving max gainz
You want to get more flexible? GOMAD!
You want endurance? Squats and Deads
You want cardio? Squats and Deads
You want to not be a weak minded limp dicked loser? Squats and Deads lol
Same here - it’s just not for me. I’m more of a 4x10 once a week guy and just try to stay tight and in control on the movements so I don’t tweak anything. I don’t give a shit about getting super strong. I just don’t want to be gooey.
I still do squats and deads though. I mean I’m not a gigantic pussy. 
Also chicks dig traps. So I do shrugs after the deads. Which of course H&F would make fun of me for. You should look like a gormless blob but be strong as hell! It’s the only way.
Haha I do squats and deads too but with sissy amounts of weight. And the bro lifts haha. Gormless blob lololol
I don’t do curls or triceps (except dips) because my arms get big just from other stuff. But traps are amazing. They’re like a facelift for my fat body. Everything just sits better.
I know this is going to blow your minds, but believe it or not, things change.
There was a time it was like that, it’s not like that now imo.
There are lots of regs who run, row, bike, etc. Some throw some weights in there too. And yes, compound lifts will still be a frequent recommendation, because they are a good for a lot of goals.
But if you want to judge it by what it was like 5-10 yrs ago, I can’t stop you.
I have the opposite - no matter how much arms I work, my arms don’t grow. But if I even think about deadlifts my ass grows. I’m genetically predisposed to bubble butt I guess.
Ok fair enough, I haven’t been in there much lately
They made fun of my circuit training class - calling it my zumba class. That’s hurtful. 
Who was the guy that went on a diet and then proceeded to log all the snickers bars he was snacking on daily? (I know, I have no place to rag on anybody about failed diets, but still…)
The bigger answer, as far as I see it, is that the gains from a beginner progressive overload program are such low hanging fruit that obtaining them will also improve all of those other aspects of fitness. You like to run or bike? Well here are some stronger muscles to help. All pro athletes lift weights to help improve their performance so it follows that will help yours, though there is a point of diminishing returns of course.
Also, there can also be a lot of life gains just in establishing a routine and improving confidence. One of the toughest aspects of working out regularly is just establishing that routine and a program like SS, which is only a ~three hour investment in your week, is easyish to complete. And confidence… well ya, after you start out at 95lbs, then next thing you know you are squatting/deadlifting multiples of your bodyweight for reps, it will make you feel good.
Last thing I can think of is the compound lifts can be used as a bit of a diagnostic tool since there is a standard for each lift. For example, range of motion issues may be easily identified in a full squat and thus provide you with a deficiency to improve in your yoga/stretching sessions.