It has some symbolic value.
It doesnāt meet the moment, though. Trump is a historically corrupt President who is flagrantly using the power of his office to enrich himself. Heās undermining our democracy, our national security, and exacerbating the peril of climate change. At least, thatās what Dems are trying to sell us on (I believe it), but all you can do is some token ripping of a speech after you invited him into Congress and allowed him to host a white-supremacist variety hour, hand out a Medal of Freedom to Rush-Fucking-Limbaugh and use it as a platform to spread lies and disinformation? Iām sorry, thatās not enough.
I mean, she also impeached him.
Never mind, @ViridianDreams, I just read your comments in the other thread and see where youāre coming from.
Yeah, and do you think, after how the President and the Republican members of Congress responded, inviting the President into Congress and allowing him to spread more propaganda and lies in support of their cause is an appropriate reaction?
edited my post. I misunderstood you in initially.
Like, impeachment is serious business, we do that, President ignores it, refuses to turn over evidence, Republican senators fall
In line, lie and obfuscate in support of the President, Democrats respond byā¦ ripping up a speech, a symbolic gesture. The only thing that makes sense is to take an even more drastic measure in response, ie, barring him from speaking in Congress.
I agree. But I am whole time thinking about what could she have done differently/better. At which point in this years could she have done something differently that could lead to a different result?
And what exactly can we do somehow? I still donāt understand how Trump could be elected in the first place. And I think it is necessary to really get it to avoid the repetition. It so doesnāt fit in my picture of the world Trump as a president in USA.
May be Bloomberg can kill this thing. ā¦ I meanā¦ right now dems play poorly this game. May be Bloomberg has enough money to pay good ad-/media- guys who can help him to outplay Trump.
She could
Have refused to invite him to Congress. I would have probably even been satisfied if she made him give the speech with all of his rape victims sitting right behind him making comments the whole time about his pathetic, weird penis.
I donāt really know, but at some point you have to treat this situation with the seriousness it deserves, and your actions have to align with your rhetoric. I think the public will be much more receptive to someone who behaves consistently with their rhetoric, who says this President is a unique threat and that his actions require a serious response, rather than someone who is telling us this guy is the worst ever but then turns around and plays silly political-show games like ripping up a meaningless piece of paper after the President and his cronies just danced a white-supremacist jig all through your house.
Hereās a thought: donāt stand up and clap a bunch of times.
I donāt really know, but at some point you have to treat this situation with the seriousness it deserves, and your actions have to align with your rhetoric. I think the public will be much more receptive to someone who behaves consistently with their rhetoric, who says this President is a unique threat and that his actions require a serious response, rather than someone who is telling us this guy is the worst ever but then turns around and plays silly political-show games like ripping up a meaningless piece of paper after the President and his cronies just danced a white-supremacist jig all through your house.
If we want to talk about messaging, what message does it send to the public to invite the guy you just indicted into your house to lead a pep rally?
The core issue with Chuck and Nancy is that they donāt actually care. They would get a lot more leeway from me if they ever, like literally one time, actually fought back.
Why is the house passing GOP spending bills?
Why isnāt the Senate filibuster being used for literally every single thing?
They would get a lot more leeway from me if they ever, like literally one time, actually fought back.
Nancy fought back once, during the government shutdown about the funding for the wall.
Not coincidentally, she had her highest approval among this community during that time.
I like the revolutionary number I got lol
The site for the test (itās 72 questions)
https://leftvalues.github.io/index.html
She just indicted Trump for impeachment. Not really fair to say she has never fought back.
She waited until the camera was positioned on her to do it. It was very much planned.
Fun time-waster. I also got eco-marxism, though itās not something I would have ever described myself as. I was unsure about quite a few, and probably answered some questions contradictorily to othersāwhich might be how I ended up both āDecentralistā and āPartisan.ā
I wasnāt sure about a few either and Iāve seen a lot of people I sent this to got eco-marxism (donāt think I would describe myself that way) and Iām thinking the ecological questions might be weighted a little higher or something of that nature (ha)
I started it but stopped quickly after the first handful of question were all about revolution. like bernie or bust and everything, but Iām pretty sure we all end up worse off after a revolution.