Legit lolled at ânot racist enoughâ and âgolfâ as weaknesses
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Holy shit, a 7 hour live event on climate.
Who will be there:
- JuliĂĄn Castro - 5:00 PM
- Andrew Yang - 5:40 PM
- Kamala Harris - 6:20 PM
- Amy Klobuchar - 7:00 PM
- Joe Biden - 8:00 PM
- Bernie Sanders - 8:40 PM
- Elizabeth Warren - 9:20 PM
- Pete Buttigieg - 10:00 PM
- Beto OâRourke - 10:40 PM
- Cory Booker - 11:20 PM
Next we need a 7 hour one for Medicare for all!
I honestly hope they bring Inslee in as a moderator or questioner
I feel like so many of them are going to be saying the same things. I understand that climate change is possibly the biggest, most important issue of our time, but I actually kind of understand why the DNC nixed a climate debate. Whatâs there to debate among Dems, really? Little details, maybe, but then it will get so wonky and into the weeds and the regular mouthbreather CNN audience will tune out around Klobucharâs time.
Realistically, the only parts of the platform that these candidates have different ideas on are health care and maybe economic issues.
Itâs why the ridiculous âbut my candidate said it firstâ arguments on twitter, etc are pointless.
I think Warrenâs big hidden strength is being able to âspeak conservativeâ. While her poll numbers right now are better with the cliche liberal types and Bernie Sanders has better numbers with working class people, I think this has got a lot to do with name recognition. Educated voters are most likely far overrepresented in the number of people paying close attention this early in the cycle.
Warren seems good at waging clas warfare on Trump without it alienating âfolksyâ people, whereas Bernie Sanders seems to have a more class-conscious effect which polarizes more, which is generally good, but also will alienate some voters.
They both have âcharismaâ, it just works in different ways. I donât know enough about the other candidates, so I canât tell if there are hidden charsima giants among them. I am only sure itâs not Yang. I listened to him for five minutes being interviewed on the Freakonomics podcast and immediately thought: âNo, thanks. too much pseudo-leftish technocratic bs.â Itâs exactly the thing that appeals to Stephen Dubner and it is interesting to discuss, but the only thing I thought about Yangâs persona while listening to him was âannoyingâ.
These are the kinds of polls I like to see.
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1166683853467070464?s=19
And Biden is decidedly not dead. +18 and +13 in the primary in the 2 polls out this morning.
She doesnât speak conservative. She speaks business. People act like the two are the same thing when it really isnât. And itâs why people like her ended up in the GOP with some belief it was the market party.
Sheâs from Oklahoma. Itâs safe to say she speaks conservative and business. The business came from being a leading expert on bankruptcy and a HLS prof of every subject that involved money.
Nah. Conservative speak is now just histrionic mumbo jumbo that has flown the coop. Whether I agree with it or not, Milton Friedman had some form of logic when he gave speeches about capitalism. The conservatives of today have went fully against his beliefs. Such as the trade war crap. They operate without principles.
She speaks business because at some level the more astute business person understands you have to act rationally or soundly. And Warren is capable of making arguments on that level.
I think you are referring to Republicans, not conservatives. Most conservatives donât believe in trade wars.
Theyâre the same thing these days. Conservatives arenât the old stodgy guys by-the-economic-text-book guys these days. Theyâre nationalist fucks like Trump (Hannity, Carlson, etc). And those old stodgy guys have since jumped the GOP ship like George Will.
âConservativesâ who stick to their principles and arenât just in it for the grift are flying unicorns who shit rainbows.
You guys are talking about the grifters who exploit conservatives. Fox News viewers is who weâre all talking about. And letâs be clear: They are the victims here on some level. Somebody decided it was fine to setup a propaganda network targeting them specifically and it turned their brains to mush. The fact that it worked so well on so many people suggests that it canât be entirely their own fault.
Fox News viewers are remarkably malleable. Thatâs demonstrated by the fact that they seem to have no principals. Their concept of right and wrong has been warped into a series of Pavlovian responses to words spoken in a particular order with a particular cadence. Trump used this to win the GOP primary. A Democrat could use it to win way more of the popular vote than political scientists think is possible.
I am not sure we all agree on what âspeaking conservativeâ means. What I was referring to, was an ability to speak to less educated rural /small city voters. Those that pay lip service to âfamily valuesâ type stuff. A lot of the people that are racist, but donât see themselves as racists and did vote for Obama.
I think Warren is quite good at appealing to those types of people, while also energizing a lot of people âdeeperâ in the Dem camp. (Maybe not the ones who claim the women who started the CFPB is too business friendlyâŚ)
Warren and Pete, and to a lesser extent, Klobuchar, are the best at this, because itâs whereâ theyâre from.
In other newsâŚGeorgia in play?
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1166724156114841602?s=20