Warren and Yang are both super super gifted so yeah… but they were going for normal prestige stuff that the academically gifted go for. Neither one aspired to anything political. Of the three I think Bernie has been aspiring to political leadership the most. Not a bad thing, because again anyone running for president is guaranteed to be ambitious…
But there’s a big difference between mission oriented ambition (I want to accomplish this goal for X) and personal ambition (I want to be X). I’m pretty satisfied that all three of those candidates are the first type of ambitious.
There’s a difference between ambition for the presidency to be able to change things, and ambition for the presidency just to be able to call yourself president. Both of the candidates in the last election were in the latter category.
I think (hope) that it’s all tongue in cheek. But his McKinsey work is a red flag in that a.) there is a real chance that he worked on some very unsavory stuff while there, given their history and client list, and b.) it is another piece of evidence that he is more concerned with power/prestige than with doing good.
Like, it is a good thing to constantly remind people that this guy had every opportunity in the world to do, quite literally, whatever he wanted with his life. He chose to work for the worst consulting firm on the planet, and then enlist in the US military in his late 20s in the height of our fucking up the Middle East beyond all repair.
Who knows, but I’d bet against. He was probably in Afghanistan pretending to understand business while firing people because management was afraid to so they can get credit for cutting costs and get bonuses. McKinsey stuff.
Which part of what I said was conspiritarding? He worked for a company that is documented to do a bunch of terrible stuff. We attack Romney and Patrick for working for Bain, and McKinsey is way worse than that.
Same level of evil… but small quibble. McKinsey are definitely terrible people whose aggregate impact on the world (and it is large) has been very negative.
Agree not to start a derail, but in case that came out of left field… It’s possible I’m confusing you, and if so, my apologies again. I thought you engaged in some pretty severe personal attacks on me because I don’t always kowtow to mainstream messaging
I find discussing politics frustrating. Anytime I make the simple easy posts on topics everyone here is likely to agree on like rampant racism, wealth disparity, Trump sucks, etc., I get nothing but hearts and zero push back. However, whenever I dare stray off the beaten path of mainstream messaging to point out say, that certain less popular candidates like Yang and Gabbard are being treated unfairly by the media, I get trampled by the herd of group thinkers on here who are unable to listen, let alone accept an alternate viewpoint. I thought you were one of them. If not, I apologize for confusing you
Probably not… but McKinsey is for sure at the nasty end of the establishment pool. Definitely the ugly side of capitalism. If Pete was in Afghanistan for McKinsey it’d be damning, but I haven’t seen anyone credibly claim that. People saying he was one of their wiz kids is not good. Their wiz kids are awful people.
These Pete tweets are almost surely on the nose. I was the (relatively) poor kid who went to a huge high school that was 50% rich kids. I know a few of these people and they are transparently obvious as soon as you meet them. It’s a huge and near universal character flaw that people flock to these creeps.
Clinton and Obama both have this as well. Come at me.