Who will run in 2020?

If you want people to process their privilege you can process your own first. You have a lot more privilege to process than most bottom 60% whites do. They are experiencing societal collapse on a scale you have no experience with and they want to blame someone for it. Claiming that they were supposed to see through Donald (or care about his racism/sexism) and pick an obvious elitist like Hilldawg is ridiculous.

And you can be 100% right about them being racist and it still doesn’t justify just writing them off. They are human beings living in crumbling places with rapidly rising mortality rates and lousy education. Yes they cling to guns and religion. So what? Does that mean they don’t deserve your compassion?

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It’s not patronizing, it’s acknowledging reality and my own privilege, which I’m acutely aware of because I’ve spent a lot of time around these people. They aren’t bad people and they deserve the same level of understanding as anyone else.

You have to be willing to meet people where they are… and that includes understanding why their views are what they are.

And Clinton overwhelmingly won minority voters which would skew her numbers down… you’re talking about averages when you should be thinking about the marginal vote won by Obama but lost by Clinton in MI/PA/WI/OH and literally nobody else. The people in those places are in a DESPERATE way.

What kind of person from CA/NY votes for Trump? Not a poor person although there are probably some areas that look like MI/PA/WI/OH in those states. Rich assholes skew averages super hard, and you’re more than welcome to call the Papa Johns of the world racist all you like… the problem with calling them racist as a candidate is that those rich racists will happily take you calling them that and weaponize it with the poor whites. It’s just stupid and we should stop doing it.

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I don’t think all those people are bad. I don’t think all rich people are bad. I don’t think talking about how racist people are is a good strategy for getting votes.

I don’t think racism isn’t racism though and I don’t think bending over to excuse people’s racism and be understanding is a good strategy to decrease racism and I think it is patronizing. Lots of poor white people aren’t racist.

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lol, I’m in the Rust Belt and this guy wants to lecture me on Hillbilly Elegy shit.

Being poor doesn’t make you racist, being stupid does.

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If there is ANYTHING I’m sure of after spending decades in depressed Midwestern communities, it’s that racist white midwestern Republicans deserve exactly zero sympathy, ever, and that chasing their votes is a complete waste of time.

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Pumping hopium into my veins this afternoon: just realized that if Pete/Biden/Warren/Sanders go the distance it is likely a brokered convention.

It seems obvious (PLEASE) that Warren and Bernie will pool their votes together at this point.

If Warren and Bernie can combine for over half the delegates, one of them will be the nominee. In my whisper of a dream land, Bernie & Warren cut a deal before the primary to combine their delegates at the end, and whoever has the most out of the 2 will be the nominee.

I’m getting optimistic because if you add Bernie + Warren in the polls, it’s almost always higher than Biden, and most importantly they have him dominated in California, which is a huge amount of delegates. Biden might actually not be viable in CA which means he won’t get any delegates - DISASTER.

The wildcard here is Pete. What would he do? Would he pool votes to Bernie/Warren or would he pool votes to Biden? What would his demands be? The other big element is money. Warren and Bernie will have enough money to go the distance. Will Pete? Right now the biggest ground games outside the first 4 states are Bernie/Warren by a huge margin. I don’t even know if Pete has much outside the first 4, he is basically all-in there AFAIK.

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No one in the party is going to give Bernie anything. He’s not a Democrat.

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OTOH, Bernie isn’t going to concede shit to Biden either. If Bernie & Warren combine for over half the delegates, and Biden has more than the two of them, I think there’s a solid argument to be made that the country in general has decided they want a progressive to be the nominee. Would Warren or Bernie pledge their delegates to Biden? I don’t see it. I think Pete would do it in a heartbeat if Biden gives him any sort of position like VP though, as Pete would take the opportunity to propel himself for a presidential run in 2024/28 w/e (Pete Vs AOC ??)

Lol the one person I have on ignore (other than Trumpbot)

Bernie was WAY too nice to Hillary last time around. He and Liz need to go hard at Pete and Biden.

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It won’t happen, but it’s ok - he has AOC to make the attacks for him this time around.

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“Who said they like coke?”

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The remaining progressive also-rans (Tulsi and Steyer I guess?) need to Kamikaze Joe and Pete, and the sooner the better

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Imagine if Bernie or Liz did this. Campaign would be over.

https://twitter.com/MollyNagle3/status/1202648690302869505?s=20

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I want you for my D+D Dungeon Master

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lol, am I crazy or did Biden say, "Look, Fat … " right at the end of that?

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Love that he went for an IQ test 4 rollz too.

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So good.

I would so vote for Biden for President of Olwhitemanstan

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What did he say in response that got the crowd ohhing? I played it a few times but couldn’t make it out.

one week left for Yang/Tulsi to make the debate, right now just 6 in this debate

Tulsi is essentially whether someone polls NH or not because for some reason they let people who aren’t dems vote in the primary over there. (this is also true for the R primary, so if every dem in NH unregistered they could literally all vote against trump for trollsies)

Booker gonna get a bump from Harris’s exit and if it was two weeks, I’d sell all my no shares of him making the next debate, but he needs 4 in a week? I expect a lot of polls after the holiday break but yeah i’d be surprised.