Who will run in 2020?

I’d be interested to learn your resources because I just didn’t come up with anything I found that scary. I’m always looking for accurate, non biased news and info. I know we have a media thread. I’ll check there

Thanks,

(Edit: largely ponied by boredsocial)

One of the things that I remember someone (David Axelrod?) saying is that a campaign is basically a job interview for president - it’s a grueling task and you can get a sense for how a candidate chooses and manages the people on his/her team, how they responds to crises, and how they communicate to the public as the campaign goes along, which should give an indication of how well they’d ultimately govern.

That may have been a self-serving way to deflect Obama’s lack of experience in 2008, but this person pointed to Obama’s very well-run campaign as a useful predictor for how he’d run the country. And I think there’s a lot of merit to that idea. I was very bullish on HRC as a qualified candidate that would have been a good president. Looking back, her campaign was really badly-run with bad management of people and poor communications. (Here I’m imagining Fly going on a rampage about Robby Mook.) Those campaign attributes probably carry some information about an HRC presidency.

Point is that I interpret Harris’s poor campaign management as at least partly reflecting upon her ability to do the job.

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Here ya go:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/tulsi-gabbard-unites-bloodstained-modi-genocidal-assad-putin-and-the-u-s-far-right-1.6870890

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Her own twitter feed… is yikes dude. Her background is also yikes. Her actual record is yikes. Look the reality is that she probably should just fade from our collective consciousness. She’s not worth thinking about any longer. She isn’t viable, and her ceiling is super low because the longer you look at her the worse she gets.

Honestly I feel like the only reason @Cactus likes her is the media doesn’t… which is fair enough given the way they’ve reacted to their monopoly on local advertising dying and like 2/3 of them losing their jobs (the vast majority of which were in print journalism to the best of my knowledge). I’m not a big fan of the ad driven television media at all (to the point where I can’t tell you which is better because I never watch them except for the TV debates which I genuinely think are fucking terrible and should be taken back by the political parties) but that doesn’t make Tulsi not awful. Broken clocks yada yada yada.

I haven’t watched a minute of Fox News in my life, so I wouldn’t know what they say except for clips I come across on Twitter. I have and do occasionally watch CNN and MSNBC and from what I hear about Fox, they’re basically the same thing without the outright lies. The former will omit facts at their convenience and spin them just has hard as Fox, but won’t blatantly lie or change facts like Fox does. This gives them slightly more credibility, but has the same effect when it comes to brainwashing their audience

Some Harris context that I just learned:

Apparently, the deadline to have your name removed from the CA primary ballot is very soon. Dropping out now avoids a nasty loss in her home state and a potential bad look for her senate re-election campaign down the line.

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Only 6 qualified for the December debate so far. Assuming Yang qualifies (and it’s a virtual certainty that he will given he only needs one more poll and is binking most of the non qualifying ones this week) that’s only 7. That’s downright watchable. I may not have to be stumbling drunk to watch this.

EDIT: It’ll still be terrible because it’s a fairly lousy sound byte contest where the people asking the questions essentially pelt the candidates with rotten fruit and/or rocks… but it’ll be a good bit better than when they have 10+ people to distribute questions to.

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I’m not going to lie. I’m a pretty (typical) and ignorant American when it comes to keeping up with foreign affairs and the involvements we have going on. I can tell you this…

“For too long, the U.S. has turned a blind eye to the atrocities being committed against civilians in Yemen by the Saudi-U.S. coalition…[a] genocidal war that has killed tens of thousands of Yemeni civilians with bombs and mass starvation, creating the worst humanitarian crisis in the world…The time for crocodile tears and baseless platitudes is over. Enough is enough. The U.S must end its support for Saudi Arabia and stop waging interventionist wars [unauthorized by Congress] that increase destruction, death and suffering around the world…”

I don’t disagree with much of this quote and the article seems like just another hit piece to me. As to Modi, why did Obama overturn his visa ban and the India courts exonerate him? I am not qualified to debate this, but am smart enough to know these are intricately complicated situations. We have a moral obligation to stop genocides and mass sufferings, but we shouldn’t be selectively intervening based on our own interests or to the benefit of our for profit war machine. Saudi Arabia has one of the worst human rights records of any country and yet they are our allies!

Also, @boredsocial is correct. I’m mainly in this battle with you and others right now, not because I like her, but because the media doesn’t. I’m a skeptical son of a bitch who doesn’t trust our centrist politicians, our centralized media, or our own government. At the very least, I have a trust, but verify attitude about all these institutions

I don’t trust any media source but Bloomberg, and that’s only because they don’t spin much at all (because again incentives). Even them there’s a pro business bias that’s subtle but very much there even as they cover everything wrong with capitalism in exhaustive detail lol.

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Do you think the President should be banned from twitter? If my dumbass with no juice can write nonsense there, I think the POTUS should be able to as well.

Trump is clearly violating Twitters TOS, ofc he should be banned.

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Oh my God I saw a reference to this on Twitter yesterday and thought it was satire.

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Didn’t watch the video. Did he come aboard the Industrial Revolution and endorse expanded use of the steam engine?

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Because Obama’s India policy was was AIDS and he badly misunderstood what kind of a person Modi is.

My post about Kamala 15 minutes ago was removed, and I don’t care because this is a privately owned site and that’s the mod’s prerogative. Twitter is so massive it is a public forum, even the historically worst people should be exempt from banning. Exceptions for people posting about being on paleo/keto/vegan diets.

Sounds like communism and this isn’t a privately owned site.

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With only 6 candidates watch them reduce it to an hour long and call on Yang once

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whew, Joe. This is a…thread

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1201656586365747201?s=20

https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1201931955002052608?s=21

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that tweet nauseates me. Literally.