Who will run in 2020?

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Most people arenā€™t paying attention, and Biden is still best known as Obamaā€™s vp. Bloomberg is best known as the stop and frisk soda ban guy.

Jebus. Ok, fine, welcome aboard Peter. In 2020 after Trump is re-elected letā€™s see who else changes their mind too late to matter.

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Sheā€™s renounced that stance and has publicly apologized for it. Her father was staunchly against gay rights. She changed her belief (she says) after serving with members of the lgbtq community in the military (ahemā€¦ Warren was a Republican til she was 47. Gabbard is 38 now). So sure. She loses points for once being so wrong about a belief, but she earns some back (at least on my scorecard) for openly admitting her mistake and adjusting her position. Iā€™ve been wrong and have changed my views on some very important matters as well. I think we all have

But what Iā€™d really like is for someone to cite where sheā€™s been untruthful. The entire reason these ad hoc attacks exist against her is precisely because sheā€™s truthful and calls things like she sees them. Whereā€™s the evidence that sheā€™s a Russian asset? Cite some FACTS that I can delve into. Sheā€™s the recipient of the meritorious service medal and has served on the homeland security, armed services, financial services, and foreign affairs committees

I have no vested interest in Tulsi fucking Gabbard, but do have a huge interest in pointing out how MSM steers gullible people in the direction they want, by ignoring and even smearing candidates they donā€™t want us voting for or knowing much about

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Dude not going to go through this again, but it gives you no pause that she is boosted by: Fox News, RT, Russian bots, and is the fucking ā€œThe one Democrat I can likeā€ candidate in poll after poll of Republicans? All of that is a happy accident?

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I think youā€™re overestimating the knowledge of people who donā€™t pay attention. Both in terms of knowing Bloomberg was the stop and frisk guy and in understanding why itā€™s a terrible policy.

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I posted two of her votes that sucked and demonstrate that sheā€™s not progressive in the ways that a lot of people who like her are drawn to her because of her isolationist positions think she is. Sheā€™s a war hawk in her own way.

Now she is actually progressive on social and environmental issues.

All her votes on immigration that I looked at are good. She didnā€™t vote on the terrible funding thing that Nancy Pelosi wanted, but I donā€™t think any of the candidates did. She hasnā€™t take a position on whether border crossing should be decriminalized.

Daouā€™s face turn was like 2+ years ago, to be fair.

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The number of issues that I would put ahead of gay rights is in the double digits. Iā€™m more willing to accept disagreement on that issue than a bunch of other stuff, so Iā€™m not going to ding anyone much for being wrong on it (although it tends to correlate with being wrong on other stuff).

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going ā€œall inā€ in a primary seems pretty dumb i mean are you really not going to support any of these guys against trump rn? you canā€™t give him 8 years, better a biden than that, i mean who knows, maybe joe can negotiate a trillion dollars for cancer research if he agrees to name it ā€œthe republican party presents: tax cuts and jobs 2ā€ and promise 800 billion of it goes to some scam companies. itā€™d still be better than trump. how great would it be if joe biden at the presidential debate bumps chests with trump and smacks him around a little? i think heā€™ll do it.

and look, bernie would be better, he would give very intelligent reasoned responses to every question and systematically deconstruct all of trumpā€™s bullshit in an understandable way and in a funny voice and he looks funny so itā€™s entertaining at the same time.

and iā€™d love to see pete up there against trump acting like a regular guy, like your nice grandson who you donā€™t see often enough, being very straightforward and plain, in very stark contrast to an aging dottering fuckin loony idiot

and i still think liz would be great in a debate against trump because like bernie she would make appeals for reason against corrupt capitalism and donald trump is like the perfect strawman because he actually exists, he is somehow a man this obviously corrupt and guilty.

mike bloomberg? i think mike bloomberg is very intelligent and pragmatic, seemed competent as a mayor in general, but heā€™s not entertaining enough to find a place in national politics, heā€™s basically an older uglier pete buttigeig but i honestly think he could be a pretty good president, probably better than pete.

yang unfortunately is a joke candidate. iā€™d love to see him do it but iā€™m not getting my hopes up and i already told you iā€™m voting for bernie, but yang would be way better than trump, cā€™mon

basically what iā€™m saying is iā€™m still out here having fun, still gonna vote for my favorite, love the conversation, thanks.

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Trump may well be the worst candidate ever, so yeah, but itā€™s not saying much. If Marco Rubio were the Dem candidate Iā€™d vote for him against Trump. Even Ted Cruz.

Iā€™ll confess that during 2016, I thought that President Ted Cruz would be worse than President Donald Trump.

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and then you have a guy saying people who would support a moderate candidate are no better than trump voters here. I understand weā€™re all on a spectrum here, in more ways than one, but still, like man, it seems super common sense to support whoever wins the dem primary. Iā€™m planning on taking at least all of my vacation and whatever sick days I can get at whatever job Iā€™m at to volunteer to help WHOEVER is against trump.

I put a lot of effort for me into the 2018 midterms and it had a good outcome in a tight race. I really feel I made a nonzero difference and you all can too, if I can. Thereā€™s no pointless votes.

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After Navy Seal bro is done crying about being accused of being a racist if you mention ā€˜border securityā€™ (@33 min or so, itā€™s in the link), listen to Red Sparrow talk about immigration, open borders, and refugees for the next ~8 minutes or however long, and I humbly suggest: donā€™t bring her the fuck up ever again. If you canā€™t see the nationalist bingo lights go off and why sheā€™s on Tucker every week and why sheā€™s the one Democrat Republicans seem to like, no more help can be given to you.

cliffs: Tulsiā€™s for a ā€œsensible approachā€ to immigration guys. O P E N B O R D E R S @37min

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Meh. HRC beat Trump by 3 million votes in the US while beating Trump by 4 million votes in CA, ie Trump won the rest of the US, ie votes in CA donā€™t mean anything in the general. Making calls to people in Wisconsin or something would be way more effective than voting in CA. A ballot gets mailed to my house though, so itā€™s not like it really takes any effort to vote.

Not sure how you meant that - hard to do sarcastic cliffs.

Down ballot matters.

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America can be explained by 4 graphs, relative to the rest of the world :

Health care spending

Gun deaths

Military spending

Effective tax rate by net worth

The rest is just noise.

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Yes, though in my district itā€™s pretty locked up until you get to state assembly, which is a super-majority anyway, but there are local offices and ballot measures.