Who will run in 2020?

[6ix]

Hold up, Deval Patrick just came in with a motley crew of black predatory capitalists. This pickle is getting dicey.

[6ix]

So it turns out they all eat food and drink water. Every day. So that’s two things. Awaiting confirmation as to whether they pee and poop it out like real people.

[anon24898493]

Wow that was soooooooooo clever.

[Trolly]

@anon29622970

How privileged do you have to be to think supporting a guy with 0% black support is the best we can do?

Because that’s definitely what I said.

I dunno, have fun staying home on election day while the rest of us try to unfuck this country.

[6ix]

@anon24898493

Wow that was soooooooooo clever.

Thanks, I agree. Do you think it got the point across?

p.s. Wait, are you being sarcastic? Do you secretly think it WASN’T clever?!?

[Cactus]

@skydiver8

I have news for you guys who want a revolution to burn it all down: there’s nothing left to burn down. Personally, I’d rather rebuild, but hey, viva la revolucion, amirite?

I’ve got news for you. There’s going to be no resources left to rebuild if we keep electing moderates. They’ve got all the money. They’ve got all the power. They’ve got all the corporate donations/bribes. They’ll soon have all the SCOTUS seats and appellate court judges. They’ve got all the districts gerrymandered and restricted voting rights. But hey, viva la same old, same old and expecting different results, amirite?

[geewhysee]

If something burns down its probably a good idea not to rebuild in the exact same way as last time. Even the 3 little pigs figured that one out.

Hey guys what about socially aware liberal globalised markets with completly free movement of capital and private competition in the provision of public services. That’s bound to work this time.

[Cactus]

@hobbes9324

Which means they’re counting on voting blocs that have a nasty habit of not showing up in November.

The key is the youth vote and 4 more years of youth will have turned voting age by 2020

@hobbes9324

They showed up in 2016, but I dunno how excited your youth vote is going to be about turning out for Biden, or how well the black vote will turn out for Pete (and I think he’s pretty unlikely to be the nominee, but online he’s the third choice ahead of Bernie at present, so who knows?)

Which is why anyone but Sanders, or Warren, or Yang on the top of the ticket will clinch GOP rule and be a total disaster and game over for Dems

@hobbes9324

People hate the establishment and moderates.”

Maybe. Or maybe you hate them. OTOH, as of today online, the dems are -120 to win.

The overwhelming majority hates moderates, but the sad truth is they’ve been brainwashed not to realize it. People like @nunnehi and @skydiver8 don’t understand that a vote for a moderate is a vote for corporate donations (which Cenk Uyguy correctly described as bribery on Cuomo), it’s a vote for ZERO taxes on Billionaires’ income, it’s a vote in favor of the industrial military complex and endless wars, and it’s a vote against climate change and M4A

Real people and voters overwhelming side with progressives on ALL these issues! Establishment Democrat and Republican politicians are vehemently against them for obvious reasons. They can’t stay in power and line their pockets if progressives win

[Cactus]

@geewhysee

If something burns down its probably a good idea not to rebuild in the exact same way as last time. Even the 3 little pigs figured that one out.

Yeah I thought about my wording on that and was wondering if someone would nit that out. But I’m sure you get my point. You’re correct and you know I’m obviously not for rebuilding in the exact same way

[geewhysee]

I was agreeing with you :)

[anon38180840]

@anon29622970

How privileged do you have to be to think supporting a guy with 0% black support is the best we can do? How privileged do you have to be to think that as a rich white male you understand the black experience in this country because you’re gay?

How privileged do you have to be to think the guy who is basically a run of the mill POTUS candidate circa 1980 to 2020 is as bad as the fascistic monster throwing kids in cages and AT BEST a useful idiot to Russia, but likely flat out compromised?

@anon29622970

Those who support him are no better than Trump supporters. If they can’t see that what they are supporting is evil at this point, there’s nothing I can do about it.

This is absolutely bonkers.

@anon29622970

Enjoy the 4 years of essentially President Romney that you’ll get with Pete.

This is kind of funny. Like, I’m far from the biggest Pete fan around these parts, but he’s more progressive than Obama was on the vast majority of issues.

[eyebooger]

@anon29622970

Those who support him are no better than Trump supporters.

I understand (and agree with) a lot of the anger here, but this is way wrong.

[AllTheCheese]

In 2008, Obama, the most progressive Dem nominee in decades, had the public position that people like Pete Buttigieg shouldn’t be allowed to legally marry.

[Trolly]

@AllTheCheese

In 2008, Obama, the most progressive Dem nominee in decades, had the public position that people like Pete Buttigieg shouldn’t be allowed to legally marry.

So the correct play was to stay home and let McCain win?

[MakeHaste]

This Thanksgiving season, I’m thankful no candidate is starting out with a 600 superdelegate lead in the 2020 primary.

[AllTheCheese]

No, of course not. My point was the opposite. People are going nuts extending purity testing into the general against Donald Fucking Trump, when most of the people on the debate stage would govern more progressive than the most progressive Pres of our lifetimes.

[RegretS]

@AllTheCheese

when most of the people on the debate stage would govern more progressive than the most progressive Pres of our lifetimes.

This is exactly the problem. The bottom 50% of Americans control 1/3rd of the wealth by percentage compared to Herbert Walker Bush’s time. Literally a 1980s Republican is better than the most progressive Democratic president in a decade. Purity tests are very relevant when the objective of politicians are to coop a party and process where it is effectively a multi iteration prisoner’s dilema.

[champ]

Obviously we will support whoever in the general because we won’t have a choice. How is that in any way relevant to the primary?

The polling supports that there really is no material difference between the major candidates on how they’d fare vs Trump. We can argue about that forever, but as we learned in 2016 it’s silly.

[d10]

@MakeHaste

This Thanksgiving season, I’m thankful no candidate is starting out with a 600 superdelegate lead in the 2020 primary.

Unless no one has a majority on the first ballot, then expect all superdelegates to vote for the moderate centrist who came in 3rd place.

[anon29622970]

Pete will still have kids in cages and will be committing war crimes around the globe. Same as it ever was.