Who will run in 2020?

[Huehuecoyotl]

@microbet

I don’t get it. You guys mad because Jimmy Fallon is lame?

I’m my best parent voice, “I’m not mad, just disappointed”

I mean he’s got to do the lame stuff and it gets his name out and more recognition, but please don’t dance on the Ellen Show, Bernie, please don’t.

[6ix]

@microbet

@wheatrich

and they don’t give a **** about latinos from say mexico entering illegally.

And what the fuck is this and what is it supposed to imply?

Fwiw a month later, wheatrich phrased that poorly. He was saying that a surprisingly large fraction of latinos don’t have sympathy or empathy for undocumented immigrants, as evidenced by their trump support.

[6ix]

@RegretS

So ya its a bit off topic but basically we hate Pete because he gets on tv and asks how we are going to pay for it. The current system is paying $4500 for an epipen which cost like $50 5 years ago. It pay for itself by costing less because the vipers and leeches will be removed from the host.

Not to sound overly facetious but a scene from an episode from the first season of House nailed it:

Cuddy: You can’t order a $3,200 DNA test to win a bet.

House: It’s not an actual cost. I don’t know if you know this, but the hospital actually owns the sequencing machine.

[anon38180840]

@Vict0ar

hes nakedly ambitious and has the backing of the Establishment Dems, media, and wealthy. hes going to totally destroy the AOC/Sanders wing of the party.

I think that’s a bit of an overestimate of what he would do to the AOC wing, but even if you’re right it beats Trump totally destroying our democracy.

I also think Pete’s democracy reform could pave the way for the progressive wing.

[6ix]

@microbet

Just last night I faced a decision with my daughter where the cost was a consideration in whether we decided to go to outside urgent care, ER, or wait for next day appointment (it’s really nothing serious, but probably not something she’d want me posting details on).

Was it because of my burn in the Leftist Memes thread?

[6ix]

@boredsocial

And get exactly no benefits. I spent my late teens and early 20’s bouncing back and forth between being lower middle class and being poor never quite qualifying for any help at all. The poverty line has intentionally not been moved for decades lol.

The people who make 30k a year need help badly. They are usually living in an aggravated state of stress about how they are going to make ends meet, and they all universally are working a ton of hours often at multiple jobs (which means no overtime). Talk to most of them and they hate the people who make 12-15k off benefits because they are getting helped and they aren’t. They see them as moochers. The stigma is huge.

You simply would not believe the number of times I’ve been told some variant of ‘these insert minority/immigrant group here just sit around all day getting housing assistance and welfare while I bust my ass at three jobs and still can’t really afford food/rent/healthcare’ from people who honestly should be below the poverty line. It’s an easy message for politicians to sell because when you’re killing yourself to make a pittance other people getting helped while you aren’t feels really shitty. It’s just envy, but it’s totally reasonable.

We have to help the entire bottom 60% to even have a prayer of moving the needle on getting the very poor any more money at all, and it’s from the upper echelons of the bottom 60% that a lot of the support for killing those benefits comes from. Families who are raising 2-3 kids on a household income of 50k are not happy about paying taxes so that other people can get government help. They feel like they deserve government help… and honestly they’re right.

So lets give everyone the help so that we can give away exponentially more of it. Heck lets give some money to the top 40% too. They’re the ones who are going to pay for it all. We somehow got the 70-95th percentile to mostly fund social security with minimal complaining that way. Let’s do that again instead of trying to help the bottom 10% at the expense of the top 90%.

You just…

@boredsocial

A lot of the people in the bottom 10% are the opposite of sympathetic.

…can’t help yourself, huh?

[6ix]

I was like, “Is he gonna make it? He’s skated on the edge a few times but IS HE GONNA MAKE IT?”

[boredsocial]

I’d like patents for 500 Alex.

[nonfiction]

Oh fuck just realized he’s gonna go by President Pete

[WichitaDM]

Article is incredible and a must read.

[anon3530961]

Bernie in 1992

[skydiver8]

So is the follow-up

Pete Buttigieg Called Me. Here's What Happened

[WichitaDM]

It’s good. But it shouldn’t take a strongly worded and viral article to get any action or even an audience from pols like Pete.

[microbet]

Actually I’m going to be contrarian and say there’s nothing amazing about either the article or Pete’s conversation with the author.

[skydiver8]

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/472156-political-twitter-is-unhappy-with-pete-buttigieg-does-anyone-care

[catfacemeowmers]

tldr version: the most knowledgeable portion of the electorate has been pointing out that Pete’s ideas suck, but lol fuck off nerds

[jmakin]

I think he’s the best chance vs trump. I agree he could be good for the progressive wing of the party. Don’t quite understand the degree of hate for him here but haven’t followed closely.

We need to stop electing geriatric boomer fucks and start getting young people in powerful positions around the country. It would be a big step and a big fuck you to boomers which is why I really secretly wanna see him go all the way.

[hobbes9324]

A good example of this - we run blood through a couple of sequencers - when I order a chem panel, I can only see either 7 or 20 items, depending if I want a basic or comprehensive panel - but it’s resulting out something like 50 or so tests in total, which makes sense - it’s cheaper to run things as a batch process and you don’t have to fuck around with adding/deleting various reagents. Basic panel is about $300, Comprehensive $700 or so - and adding stuff spins the meter.

This stuff gets complicated because 1) a doctor is supposed to show medical necessity for tests (unlike House in the show) because otherwise you’d be getting pregnancy tests run on 85 year old men which Medicare would have to pay for and 2) it would open up a horrendous med/mal swamp in that an odd value from a decade ago could be the basis for a malpractice suit (remember by definition 5% of lab results are “supposed” to be abnormal as we work from 2 standard deviations from the mean - but try explaining that to your average high school dropout jury member)

MM MD

[eyebooger]

@jmakin

It would be a big step and a big fuck you to boomers which is why I really secretly wanna see him go all the way.

If he just does boomer things like ask “How are we going to pay for universal health care?” and act like we can deal with Republicans in good faith, that’s not much of an improvement.

[anon29622970]

Would be nice if the guy claiming to represent my generation actually represented our values and ideas. Dude is a boomer disguised as a millennial and only hurts our generation.

Whoever is the first to ok boomer Pete is a hero.