Who will run in 2020?

Yeah lol wat.

Itā€™s not, people are lying about it and the media is running with it

She needs to drop out and endorse him.

You clearly havenā€™t seen how he performs with the other side of the spectrum. Itā€™s brutal. Iā€™m not talking about appealing to base Democratsā€¦ Iā€™m talking about selling liberal policies to undecideds and deplorables. The man is the best Iā€™ve ever seen at that.

Sure, if ā€œthe other side of the spectrumā€ is right-leaning politically-unengaged young people, but theyā€™re a small group that I wouldnā€™t rely on to vote anyways. I doubt heā€™s capturing enough of the deplorable vote to make up for the damage he would do to lefty turnout.

Heā€™d do fine with lefty turnout. Heā€™s for all the stuff they like and is good at giving speeches. Where does all this Yang hate even come from? What about him turns you off so badly?

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Why do you assume people hate Yang when they donā€™t agree with your largely feels-based take on him and his general election chances? Personally, I like Yang alright. I hope he pursues a career in politics after this.

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the same place where they measure former republicans and independents who arenā€™t registered Dems who plan to vote for a Dem primary candidate.

Nice. Schumer should lose his position as leader. Heā€™s already terrible at it, and if he canā€™t raise Wall Street money any more - which we shouldnā€™t be doing anyway - heā€™s useless.

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I really didnā€™t expect Biden to be so far ahead in Nevada

https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/status/1191460737643794432?s=20

I donā€™t see how this is really getting at what goofy is talking about and, in fact, might be the exact opposite. I would imagine a lot of GOP people who say ā€œyeah sure Iā€™d vote for Yang over Trumpā€ or whatever would in reality just stay home.

it was a tongue-in-cheek response that meant ā€œnowhereā€ because they just donā€™t poll those people/that position.

Staying home is us winning. Just saying.

I want to get back to this for a bitā€¦

I fully get why you feel Bernie is more a force for direction than an implementer, but would like to get some clarification on:

Do you think itā€™s a terrible idea on its merit? Or because itā€™s pouring gasoline on a fire? Public colleges used to be free. I see no compelling reason why public high schools should be free, but public colleges should not. It seems an arbitrary cutoff. We could make it 8th grade, 6th grade, or 2 years of college. An associateā€™s degree in todayā€™s work environment is at best equivalent to a high school diploma of the 60s.

Honestly, I need to research his positions on jobs for all and housing for all. Iā€™m not that familiar with it. Iā€™ve taken him to mean that programs like the Green New Deal, which should create a ton of new jobs just in infrastructure. Iā€™ll concede this point until I know more about his jobs guarantee, except to say that automation is going to necessitate we do something big, which will probably be some combination of this and Yangā€™s UBI

Again, Iā€™m not disagreeing that Warren might not be better at developing and actually implementing a progressive agenda that actually has a chance of passing. Iā€™m asking because Iā€™m genuinely curious if thereā€™s really that many people who donā€™t think that at least a community college education should be free

And yet again, conveniently omitted is that Sanders ties Trump in the Nevada general, while both Biden and Warren narrowly lose

I get that the omission isnā€™t the point. The point is how far ahead Biden is and THIS is why Centrist Democrats are so pathetic

Edit: I should probably retract this post since weā€™re only talking about a few percentage points, which is well within the margin of error, but I think my overall point stands

Also you should retract it because the entire article is about responses to a poll of Democratic caucusgoers. There is no reason why the article would include what you mention, which presumably comes from a different poll of the general electorate.

In any case, head to head polls are fairly worthless at this point. Romney was beating Obama by 4 points in Oct 2011 and Hillary was beating Trump by 10 in Oct 2015.

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Community college being free would be fine, although thatā€™s largely because I donā€™t think community college costs currently are really a problem. The problem is that 4 year colleges costs have absolutely skyrocketed because of administrative bloat made possible by grants and loans.

The reality is that we have to fix the cost structure of college before we can even think about pushing them more government money. They get a lot of it now, and have basically pocketed that and then demanded the students pony up ever more after that.

Iā€™m not an expert on higher education cost and I donā€™t pretend to have any special insight, but I know for a fact that making it free right now would end up wasting at least .75 of ever dollar we sent them.

As to the green new deal itā€™ll be fantastically lucky if it replaces the oil jobs weā€™re going to cut honestly. Fossil fuel extraction employs a lot of people. In a perfect world the same technical skills that made people valuable in the oil/gas fields will get them green energy jobs. One can only hope.

The thing is the government doing big green projects isnā€™t how we make the transition to green energy happen. We do that by taxing carbon at 100+ a ton (probably finalizing out around 200/ton). You do that and people in general will get super creative about reducing carbon footprints all over the economy. Then you take the money it raises and distribute it to everyone on a weekly basis to stop this new tax from absolutely destroying poor people. Suddenly private citizens wonā€™t be able to build green energy fast enough, and to say that VC firms will be interested in green tech will be a huge understatement.

A jobs guarantee is just a bad idea full stop. People need money so that they can figure out what they like doing. Some of them will do nothing, which is fine, because more likely than not there isnā€™t going to be enough work to go around. Hopefully they make some art or something. They need to try to figure out how to be happy though, not go get some government make work job where they waste their lives doing something unnecessary. I trust them to figure it out for themselves, even though I know some of them wonā€™t.

As to public school Iā€™m really the wrong person to ask. I think we waste an enormous amount of kids time in public schools, and the whole thing is basically glorified pubicly funded daycare so their parents can work. If it were up to me weā€™d probably make it take less time and teach pretty different stuff. But again Iā€™m no education expert, just someone deeply dissatisfied with his own educational experience from 5th grade (when I stopped being home schooled) through college.

I mean, I think Harris is done, but stillā€¦this is ridiculous

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/tom-steyer-aide-stole-kamala-harris-sc-volunteer-data-from/article_0daacd98-ff24-11e9-b9c7-87c46a5c6cc9.html

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1191572595646377986?s=20