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All the establishment picks aren’t panning out. They shook!
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RedState leaked nudes of her. That might be the private matter of which she’s speaking. It also seriously bolsters her claim that her soon to be ex husband is abusive. Leaking nudes is not OK.
Does Trump have the most effective nicknames on Biden of all Democratic challengers? I think maybe.
Sleepy Joe
Creepy Joe
Sleepy Creepy Joe
Quid Pro Joe
Crazy Joe
Quid Pro Joe is legit funny. None of them are Low Energy Jeb but they could catch on.
leaker could’ve been the dude she was last with too, who knows.
That seems super unlikely for a politician. More likely than not it’s her husband being pissed they are getting divorced. He’s significantly more likely to have them and significantly more likely to leak them. He’s got means, motive, and opportunity hammered flat. It’s also textbook behavior for an abusive spouse.
You can’t be SSRS.
Maybe there are fliers at senior centers saying, ‘folks, answer your landlines, the fact of the matter is that we need to win the polls for our peer Joe Biden’.
I considered creating and entire new thread for this, but don’t think it’s worth it. I’m curious which candidate people feel can get the most crossover votes…
First, I think it’s important to recognize that HRC did in fact win the popular vote. The problem is she still failed miserably at attracting the poor working white class and even some of the working minority class. The way I see it Trump and the GOP have 100% of the racist vote locked up. To date, the Dem strategy has been to simply be less racist than Republicans without really instituting any major changes with regards to equality
Since there’s nothing we can do about the racist vote, we need to attract the disenfranchised working class white vote. Which candidates have the best chance of doing that? This is where people like nunnehi who think they’re geniuses trotting out their fancy stats fail miserably imo. No moderate Dem nominee is going to attract the crossover votes we need
It’s no secret I’m all in on Bernie, but I also think even Yang would do much better than any moderate Dem ever could in getting crossover votes, which is what I think is needed to trounce Republicans from here on out.
Cliffs: Racists gonna racist. But the majority of the disenfranchised working class who voted Trump (or who could not bring themselves to vote for a moderate like HRC) are NOT going to vote moderate again. We now need to work on picking up those votes of people feeling the pain of a corrupt status quo establishment, which is why they chose Trump the first time. Lastly, creating turnout is key. I think a lot of people sat the last election out who would be willing to vote for major change. I just don’t see a moderate generating the kind of turnout we need
Curious what others think
Yang AINEC. I mean like 50% of the Yang Gang voted for Trump and he’s an elite salesman. His whole message is aimed at selling liberal ideas to conservative voters without them even realizing that’s what’s happening. Honestly it might be working a bit too well because it seems to turn a lot of you off. It very definitely doesn’t turn off conservatives though.
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No.
Yes.
Can you expand on that? Do mean no it’s not important to attract the disenfranchised working class?
Also, do you mean yes that a moderate can generate a huge turnout? Is it because you’re relying on the fact that so many hate Trump that they will turn out in droves? I think that’s a dangerous assumption personally
There are better targets to focus on to drive turnout, the working class whites who feel let down by Trump are still going to vote for him over a socialist, which even the most moderate Dem is going to be painted as.
I took eyebooger’s post to mean yes, driving turnout is important, not that a moderate will excite people.
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Yang or Pete. Anecdotally (because no poll ever asks and it would be nearly impossible to capture), there are lots of “former republicans for Pete” and “Libertarians for Yang” type groups out there on FB, and lots of posts on both subreddits from switchers, with stories of people changing their registration to vote for them in primaries. The internet is not real life, but with no real data, it’s one of the only things we’ve got.
How that would translate to turnout/excitement, I have no idea.
completely unrelated but funny:
https://twitter.com/realryanpro/status/1187075570326278144?s=20
(note: not a real Pete quote)
I would love to the the origins of who created those FB groups.
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Dunno about the Yang ones, but I’ve met the person who created “Republicans for Pete.” And I personally created San Diego for Pete. I’ve actually talked to many of the different groups’ creators, we have a nationwide slack server to coordinate grassroots efforts.
I know what you’re implying, but we aren’t bots, and we aren’t foreign.
Yeah I’ve spent some time around the Yang groups. Those are real republicans… all the way down to their bigotry and denial of reality. Real salt of the earth types lol. Definitely real US citizens too. Some stuff is hard to fake if you’re paying attention.
I fail to see how the existence of a non-negligible “Republicans For Pete” tendency is anything other than unanswerably damning for Pete, but that’s just me.
Not sure why people think this. The only working class whites who have anything in common with Trump or the GOP are the racists. I know it’s hard to fathom that anyone but racists voted for him the first time, but there are a lot of ignorant people who were fooled by his drain the swamp message. Those people still feel the same, but will not be voting for him again. I think they are much more likely to vote for an anti establishment Dem than a moderate. Just my opinion, but it’s a strong opinion that I vehemently disagree with some people on here about
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I created a Yang Gang for my local area on FB. BEEEP BOP BEEEP BOP.
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Serious question. 2016 was my first time voting and I’m not familiar with the rules. But is it possible that some of these “former Republicans for Pete” you are referring to, changed their party affiliation for the primaries just to nominate a Dem they feel a Republican nominee will have the best chance winning against?