You really have a hard-on for Sanders, don’t you?
For starters, he picked the guy. He brought a rabid wild dog into his home. The dog shit everywhere and then bit him.
Have you considered that Bernie “yells” because these things genuinely make him mad?
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Warren is great, but she was an adult during Iran-Contra and was still a Republican until like the Newt Gingrich era. That kind of thing makes we wonder if she is really against bombing people. She likely voted for an ex-CIA director after all of that.
She may be better than Bernie in some ways, but not in others.
As far as experience goes, don’t any of you have 10 years + of experience doing something professionally? Can’t you see the benefit? Having that in one or two different areas, including government seems pretty important to me.
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wHaT aBoUt tHe eXpErIEnCe isn’t a good argument when the country is in the shape it is whilst being led by people with experience for the past fifty+ years lol
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i thought it was hilarious watching that joe rogan interview with bernie because i’ve never heard him speak so softly. it was like a joke, he was straight-up whispering and my eyes were glued to the screen waiting for him to laugh and give up the gag and go back to his normal shouting voice
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Seems like the “experience” candidates have lost nearly every election in my lifetime? The country is where it is because we are led by unqualified morons like W and Tump.
He’s not yelling at you into submission and I don’t see how you can possibly take it as such. He is passionate about fixing a totally corrupt unfair system that has been rewarding the top 3% for decades at the expense of average Americans
Jesus, it’s amazing how out of context some people take this guy. He is nothing but sincere and has spent an entire career fighting for minorities, the poor, against corporate greed, and to help everyday Americans. He’s been on the right side of history on just about every important issue. How is it possible is he is so sorely misunderstood?
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Bernie condescending to women? Is our only evidence of this versus HRC when if anything, he was too soft, given the legit criticisms there. If I’ve missed something about Bernie truly being chauvinistic, please share. I thought that was just a meme HRC’s campaign came up with regarding BernieBros to deflect from the actual substance of the critiques against her.
If anything, I thnk one of my larger complaints against Bernie is not being more passionate in the debates.
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Because Bush, Clinton and Obama didn’t have experience before they won their elections?
Trump is the only outlier as far as presidents go.
Clinton and Obama has less experience than their competitors, yes. Bush I is the only outlier afaict.
Lol, you’re not refuting me. Neither Obama and Clinton lacked experience of leading or governance before they elected. Obama did it for 7 in the senate on top of his law school stuff where he on a board of directors. Less than doesn’t mean shit in the whole “omgosh we need lifelong politicians to govern us” argument that has been floating around itt.
It’s only been brought up because fanboyism of Bernie.
Yeah I’d like some clarification on the difference between passionately arguing for your position and shouting someone into submission. An example might help?
Also pretty big lol at “I can’t think of a single time Bernie changed his position, except all the times that the left evolved on an issue and he went along with it”
I did not say that Bernie is condescending to women. I said he makes me feel the same way that other condescending men in my life have made me feel. I’ll be honest, I’m not 100% sure that feeling comes from actual condescension, or from something else, because I’m not a psychologist.
Being passionate doesn’t have to mean yelling, and it doesn’t have to mean being inflexible.
I’m just not the type of person that can live my life being fiery angry all the time. I need calm, and stability. Since 2016 I have been living in a world of anxiety and fear, and all Bernie does when I listen to him is exacerbate that feeling. I firmly believe that is not what we need right now. I firmly believe that we can’t out-Trump Trump. The more we yell and scream, the more powerful he gets.
There’s a reason I listen to hours and hours of Pete interviews, and that reason is that he calms me down. Rationality and logic and a reasonable tone just make me feel better, and make me feel like we might get out of this mess.
I didn’t even put that in my first “why Pete” post because I didn’t think it was substantial enough. But as I wrote this post, I realized that it’s the most substantial reason of all.
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I think experience is, overall, good, for all the reasons you have stated. My point was that it can also be a double edged sword, because it means you (a) have to stay in politics for a long time, which almost inevitably changes a person and (b) will probably stake out some positions in the past that people in the future will probably legitimately see as problematic and also can be used as a cudgel by folks who haven’t been in the game as long or who otherwise didn’t have to stake out a position on that issue.
In other words, I’m just not sure that 55 year-old, still a politician AOC would be as appealing to you as you think she would be. Or, I guess more to the point, progressives in 2044 might be taking a lot of shots at “old school AOC” and griping about how this multi term Congressperson and Senator is holding back the new blood.
Obama wasn‘t in the Senate for 7 years unless you count the state senate.
You’re telling me Obama had more experience than John McCain?
I’m going to put you on ignore if you are going to keep responding without reading what I said.