you could say the same for practically every person in this forum during trump administration that did mostly nothing about it
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I agree.
A while up thread there was a video of a russian truck full of soldiers being attacked at the river crossing and people were mocking the still of the guy. He seemed completely fucking terrified.
I dont know what it is about this that’s causing folks to shut off empathy. But it’s not good.
Yes. We also think the russians are the bad guys who need to be stopped by force. But we should also recognize there are russian victims suffering here too.
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I reject the premise. It would indeed be darkly humorous if every one of us Americans that supported, or blithely went along with, the Iraq War got conscripted and then wrecked once we got there.
On the other hand, it is sad and tragic that the Russian government been rounding up anti-war protestors this whole time and are now conscripting them.
not trying to tone police anyone because i hate that, it’s just a vibe thing, idk everything coming out of russia horrifies me because it could so easily happen here.
that clip of the woman screaming in the van is easily the worst thing I’ll see all year. all of it is horrible and i feel for anyone in russia caught in this, that’s all i was trying to say with my op
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unfortunately this is not true for me. there are couple of videos from the war i refused to watch, e.g. mutilation one, a few others. but there are photos of one of Azov fighters after he returned in a prisoner swap. when he surrendered he was already wounded, a field surgeon had stabilized his upper arm with a metal bracket. the photo showed his arm got no medical help from the russians. it’s crooked and 4 inches short of a normal arm. the guy looks thin like he came out of a hunger strike. all the released azov fighters looked likethat.
I feel bad for the conscripts, yes, but once you take up arms against Ukrainians, that’s on you. Even the conscripts can attempt desertion, surrender, etc. rather than just going along with it.
man I have had this weird thing since 13 or so when I hear of a horrible video I have this compulsion to go watch it. I think to this date that one israeli pilot being burned alive was the worst I’d seen, hopefully I’m over this phase and I wont go look that up.
I’ve managed to stop doing this. Still traumatized by some videos from early internet. But have avoided for a good few years now.
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i am sorry. i will spoiler it in the future
nah that’s not on you, I think I can skip it, I don’t know what it was but that one particular clip super bothered me (the woman in van one)
https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1574479025648865280?s=20&t=tGp3aw9kO75xGdUvcopM-g
This thread has barely mentioned the significant bipartisan US funding effort for Ukraine, approaching $100bn.
I’m all in favor of this and hope it continues. I think it likely will, but less robustly, if the GOP wins the House in Nov.
In any event, I would regard Ukraine funding as related to something Yglesias calls “Secret Congress,” where a decent amount is getting done under the radar of Fox News, Brietbart, etc. (There was a global warming treaty passed last week that I also haven’t seen mentioned in the various WAAF threads.)
People like Tucker Carlson aren’t happy about Ukraine funding, as least when they feel free to bloviate, but it’s getting done due to support of GOP hawks in the Senate (around 15-20 senators). Biden, of course, has so far done an exceptional job guiding both foreign policy and congressional relations on Ukraine, basically like he said he would when he was running.
I think you’re right, this is way under the radar, I don’t think it’s even close, this has been bigger than W’s decision to start the war on terror. Zelenskyy gets a lot of credit here, but if Biden had not managed to keep NATO unified (and, in fact, strengthened it during this crisis), Ukraine would have gotten ground down and we’d probably be looking at China seriously thinking about moving into Taiwan. Who knows what dominoes would have been next after that.
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Laughing at the thought of most of the forum getting conscripted into Iraq and then killed isn’t very nice.
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https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1574375477988708352?s=20&t=boASpMg-8j3vaEvKyALGnw
What does one do with so much non-palletized material? RU obviously knows where it is. Do they have no precision weapons to destroy it? Can’t send a jet or helicopter? If I were Ukraine I would move all the stuff at least 10km away, issue the useable munitions to troops, etc.
The results of the Kharkiev offensive must be a logistical nightmare to deal with.
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In university I thought I could handle anything at least soundwise and someone linked a site of the final black box recordings on planes that crashed killing everyone. Listened to about 3 or 4 and was quite shaken.
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oh yea those are surprisingly bad, when you hear about them it doesnt seem like they will be, but in so many crashes almost everyone on board knew they were dying well before it happens, lots of recordings there are audible screams from passengers, so bad
I’ve always tried to avoid the worst in sound, video, and jpgs on the internet and elsewhere and, thankfully, have usually been successful. I don’t watch horror movies or even revenge porn action movies. Often times I’ll check reddit comments before clicking links. There are plenty of widely shared Ukraine videos I intentionally haven’t seen.
I know there are terrible things happening. For every puppy rescued from a hole, many more die. For every seal released from a net, many more suffer. Every animal, insect, and bacteria on this earth eats everything else. If there were a god, he would be the evilest designer imaginable. I don’t need to watch the videos to know this.
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