You clearly don’t know shit about them
Another empty post from the most vapid member of the consequences crowd.
It’s pretty clear who’s trying to score points because it sure as hell isn’t the person speaking out against the most popular “service” in the country.
Can’t wait for you to elaborate on what I clearly don’t know.
It is a spectrum. Voting is very very easy.
Lots of new Trump thread posts! What crazy sh*t is the Orange Man up to today?
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That’s an insane haul.
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Who could have foreseen the tech bro leaders pivoting towards
authoritarianism? Totally shocking.
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Let me help you
We all know Amazon is bad
The 100 people here. If we stop using Amazon will it change anything
No
The point isn’t about what individual action can and cannot accomplish. It’s about what consumers should be responsible for versus what companies should.
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You are going to honestly argue I had issues with him because of this stance on voting?
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Throughout history humans had to make decisions on morality.
Propaganda is our decisions don’t matter.
Let’s wait for companies to be moral instead
And yet the only thing that will change things are groups of people acting together.
You’re still missing the point. It’s about how to most effectively deal with problems caused by capitalism. Rely on individual actions of consumers to send a strong enough market signal for corporations to get the hint and stop polluting or exploiting workers or whatever, or regulate the companies to force them to innovate better methods of doing business.
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The problem is it’s not either/or—you can obviously do both.
But the important thing here isn’t what you manage to avoid. You aren’t making shit of an impact by going to Wal Mart instead of buying on Amazon (I’m old enough to remember when Wal Mart itself was the boogeyman).
The important thing is what you support. Support community farms, independent shops and press, etc and you help build more of a community around you that is less corporate and can start to present a viable alternative to our hyper financialized culture.
I can totally see the difference between a city like Seattle or Boston, and Atlanta and Dallas. The latter two just have way less artistic, independent, non-corporate stuff going on.
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The key is together.
Not buying at Amazon and doing nothing else is a bit of virtue signalling. Organizing a boycott is real action.
I think everyone needs to realize. The good guys lost
USA #1 is fucked
Earth is fucked
Humanity is fucked
Nothing i do as an individual will change that
Including voting for dems
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“Virtue Signaling” is what people with no empathy call it when people with empathy do something the empathy-less don’t understand. Which is usually something to benefit someone other than the person doing the action.
100 people boycotting Amazon isn’t going to do anything, but without those first 100 you don’t get to the next 100 and so on until it does do something. Can it get there with or without organization or leadership? Probably not, but that is no reason to denigrate those who don’t use Amazon any more than denigrating vegetarians who don’t eat meat out of moral principles.
And to Hip: You aren’t helping anyone or anything with this attitude. Keeping it to yourself is better than adding to the depression other’s already feel about how things are.
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I don’t totally agree. I think there is a certain type who will proudly proclaim they don’t buy from Amazon to anyone who will listen while doing nothing else and yet feel like they are striking a blow for the proletariat. That’s the vibe I am arguing against. I am not saying anyone here is doing that. I am just making a general point that not shopping there isn’t really political action.
I agree 100 people not shopping there won’t do anything financially but what about 100 people
Not shopping there
Organizing writing campaigns
Engaging with their local representatives to build labour laws
Joining local action groups
Reading and sharing political philosophy with each other
Donating to labour causes
Then we are talking political action.
If someone did all that and still shopped there once in a while I wouldn’t care at all.
To be clear I don’t think anyone here is terrible for shopping with Amazon. I still do it sometimes!
I just think discussing it and making better decisions when we can is the least we can do.
I’m privileged to even have the ability to make different choices.
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