Trans Youth

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I can’t even imagine living somewhere with daily political discussion obsessively focused on dehumanizing you. It’s amazing the number is so low.

The people who thrive in spite of this are insanely strong. I’ve never faced anything even remotely similar in my life.

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Thanks Clovis. You’re a real one. Seeing what the young people are going through helps me understand why I am still struggling with the same thing. I find myself railing against ideation like it came out of nowhere, but it’s hard living in a body and society so far out of alignment.

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I was chatting with a gay friend and he was saying how coming out as so hard (he did it when it was super hard) but even though it was so difficult, the saying it was all he needed to become his true self. It’s impossible to imagine having to come out as trans and then rely on a hostile expensive medical system to be able to be your true self.

Being accidentally born with a gender identity that matches my phenotype might be my biggest does of privilege in a life full of it. Being a cis straight(ish) middle class white dude, I was born with like 100 people’s share of privilege.

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Half way through. It’s pretty good.

(edit: re Will and Harper on Netflix)

No spoilers, but the contrast of scenes where they could talk to people and just be human vs where they were being observed from afar was very telling.

I read a journal article recently on political polarisation, and one of the key findings of studies of polarisation is that both sides are very bad at guessing what the other “side” actually thinks. I’ve been trying to remind myself of that lately.

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My provincial government is making a run for dumber than Trump.

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Pretty upsetting but not surprising. Mr. Paxton is on the very very short list of people who should hope we do not experience a chance meeting in a private place.

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Even people who acknowledge trans people’s right to exist have huge problems when it comes to sports and bathrooms and therefore in effect, vote against their right to exist

There are several people in my workplace who fall into this category. What’s the best way to get thru to them?

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Yeah I have a couple liberal not super political buddies who made some comments watching football this week that essentially suggested that while it’s all inflammatory bigoted political bullshit, there are serious issues with humans that were born male competing against humans born female in sports.

I laughed at them and called them stupid deplorable morons and reminded them that this is a made up issue that affects approximately zero people. And told them that they only get to have an opinion on the sanctity of women’s sports if they have WNBA season tickets.

Also, since these folks only care about male-to-female transitioning trans humans, I asked them if they remember going to high school with any non-cis guys and whether they thought they really needed to get hassled about wanting to play volleyball and whether they thought they’d be out there taking bodies with bone crushing face spikes.

Probably not the best way to deal with it as I’m just a random moron, but we absolutely were not going to play that game.

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I think sharing stories or experiences of trans people has been overwhelmingly shown to be the best strategy

There’s an article in this thread that would be good. But anything about actual trans kids playing local or school sport would probably work best

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As cynical as it seems, remind them how anti-trans measures are bad for cis women, because that is a group they do (pretend to) care about.

Ask them if they really want butch women to have to “proof” their womanhood when entering a bathroom. Tell them how in some highschool sporting events, cis girls have already had to go through humiliating inspections to proof their girlhood.

You can also remind them that the vast, vast majority of sports are at an amateur level and that there getting exercise and making connections with your peers, is more important than the result.

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When it comes to the sports thing, I think it’s also good to just emphasize the numbers. A very small fraction of people are trans, by definition about half of them are transitioning to male and surely aren’t giving themselves any advantage breaking into men’s sports, and out of the remaining ones, think of how few are actually interested in playing competitive sports anyway.

Try to get people to realize it’s not some huge growing epidemic of women’s sports being invaded by big strong transgirls, it’s a tiny smattering of cases that of course almost all wind up getting publicized because some people have an agenda.

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Cactus,

For bathrooms, I find it helpful to think of them as all unisex even if labeled otherwise. These are proof of concept that sharing bathrooms with male, female, intersex, non-binary, and all other variations does not hurt anyone.

If they push back, I would challenge them for a solution on how to handle intersex, non-binary, and all other variations. Some cultures have a third gender. Where do they expect these people to use the bathroom? The trick here is to get them to see this is not a binary problem with a binary solution.

For sports, a similar argument arises if you start not from cis vs trans, but for how to make space for all normal variations. For example , a lot of intersex people don’t identify as male or female. They identify as intersex. What gender are they supposed to play under if forcing them to play as their sex assigned at birth? What if they underwent forced surgery as babies and are now trans simply because their parents made the wrong decision?

If we’re arguing against sex assigned at birth to discriminate against competitive advantages, this is a lot like the concern people once had that gay people may have an innate disadvantage when raising children. Well maybe the concern had a place once upon a time, but we are way past proving that the concern is simply not relevant.

The same is true for worrying one person assigned male at birth has a significant advantage over those assigned female at birth. We simply have not seen case after case of that concern being born out as worthy of any attention. Surgery and hormones drastically diminish a mtf’s physical prowess. We should honestly be worried for MTF trans people for their inability to compete now lol

Show them that if we are going by the available evidence, this has borne out to be a non issue, even if you can see why someone would be concerned before the evidence was in.

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If I may, I’d like to add that I think mentiong 2 spirit is very strong. Nobody wants to go against the Native Americans.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1gbvecv/trans_man_shuts_down_ben_shapiro_with_a_slam_dunk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Man I don’t miss hearing Ben Shapiros whiny voice (used to have a housemate who listened to him non stop). Pretty satisfying to see someone unleash on him using his own tactics to totally silence him.

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Maxx shriveling in the video.

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