I can’t believe what a bad taste that final season left in my mouth. I’ve re-read plenty of trilogies or rewatched movies or shows that had WTF endings. Dexter, for example, had a batshit awful series finale, but I’ve rewatched the first four seasons over and over and over. But Game of Thrones in one dragon’s swoop makes me feel like those otherwise close-to-perfect early seasons are HBO’s version of Lucy swiping the football. YOU WON’T FOOL ME AGAIN.
Really the final two seasons were just fumbled so badly that I’ve had zero desire to do another rewatch and before season 7 I’d watched the series through I think 4? times at least. Just an almost literal crying shame that it ended so poorly.
Feel the same. I think it is amazing a single show has several top 10 all time episodes and the unarguably worst few episodes of tv ever created.
The biggest problem with Gone with the Wind is how completely hateable everybody in it is. I hated them all so much I was glad when the little brat snapped her neck and died. Yes, that probably makes me a terrible person.
I agree. I don’t like it much as a film either. It’s only interesting as a historical document.
Just popped in to say that The Last Dance (I’m 3 episodes in) is so dam good, even as someone who never watched a basketball game or Michael Jordan, to give you the idea of my knowledge of basketball & The bulls is that I didn’t even know Dennis Fucking Rodman was a bulls player or even a basketball player.
I’d heard of Scotty Pippen somewhat, and knew he was at some point a bulls player
FYI there’s also a thread for this in S&OG. And I agree, the series was absolutely fantastic.
Here’s something I wrote back when I was doing a “2019 in TV wrapup” about the final season of GoT, and specifically, the moment that defined the final season for me:
Game of Thrones: “Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet.”
The best thing you can say about season 8 of Game of Thrones is that the performances combined with the plot points let you construct a plausible narrative of character motivations for their decisions. Of course, the writing is supposed to do that work, and season 8 was a damning indictment of David Benioff and D.B. Weiss as storytellers. While the last few seasons, though often compelling, had moments where the writing clearly suffered from not having George R.R. Martin’s text to draw from anymore, they were usually moments of dialogue (“You want a good girl but you need the bad pussy” is probably the leader for “unintentionally hilarious line of the decade”). This, though, was something else; Benioff and Weiss showed they had seemingly no idea how to construct a narrative, instead just making sure the final season checked off the narrative boxes they were told to.
Their lack of care and their disinterest was made even more clear by the “inside the episode” segments, where they offered no analysis or insight, often just repeating to the viewer what they had just seen on screen. The chosen moment is from a rare time where they tried to explain how a plot event happened; fittingly, their explanation is the lamest and most implausible one possible: the story’s great conqueror simply forgot about an entire fleet of ships mobilized against them. You couldn’t sum up the laziness Benioff and Weiss brought toward the series end better if you tried.
Fittingly, they’d go to compound their mistakes by talking at a panel how they essentially learned on the job how to run a $1 billion TV show, which almost immediately lost them their deal to write a Star Wars series. (The euphemism “scheduling conflict” has never been so transparent.) It’s hard to come up with a bigger indictment of Benioff and Weiss’ abilities than that they were in charge of what was arguably the most anticipated final season of television of the 21st century, and they bungled it so badly that the entire show has become an afterthought.
Other GWTW stuff:
-basically every male named Ashley you’ve ever met from the South was named after Ashley Wilkes from that movie
-Olivia de Havilland who played Ashley’s cousin-wife is still fucking alive and has screwed many a celebrity death pool for yer boy
On 2/2?
I gotta check this out… Jeff Cannata was saying he watches this on repeat for comfort food.
Sadly, I don’t see it available anywhere except through a cable subscription?!???
I guess I will have to settle for the doc from 97 on Amazon Prime
Google is your friend with a VPN, that’s where I’m watching it…
As the state of the art of sfx in 1938 and how much we loved soap operas and white supremacy and revisionist history in the good old days, sure its history i guess. But the longer we call it history the more wirelessbros we help make.
It’s history forever. There is no copyright expiry on history.
Jfc man idk why you stanning for this drivel. its an artifact of the lowest of American culture. It’s naked hate wrapped in saccharine soap opera. Technical expertise ahead of its time in service of the worst in us. We’ll be fine without them.
All the more reason to keep it around. The point of history is also to remember the horrible stuff.
Weird how it’s the people who bleat about “Saint Bernie and his racist Bros” who stan for a racist film. Maybe clovis is just racist against Jewish and Black people.
Solid take. Idiot.
keep typing, I have less than zero interest in what racist idiots have to say and you keep proving yourself one whether it’s about movies or killer cops, but I’m happy to waste your time since you’d probably be out being racist toward someone directly otherwise
What’s happening? You guys aren’t seriously saying we should burn all racist pieces of history, right? That’s so dumb it can’t be what you mean.