THE Super Tuesday Mega-Gameday Sweat

[microbet]

Possibly, but it was never clear that she had a better chance.

[anon38180840]

@WichitaDM

I legitimately can’t tell this morning how much of how terrible I feel is due to the hangover and how much of it is due to the depression I feel over the state of this race and our country. Joe Fucking Biden guys??? Really? The guy who ran a horrible campaign, is facing severe cognitive decline, has literally zero campaign infrastructure and has raised and spent no money somehow is now the darling of the party?

I don’t get it.

Let me help. He’s a well-connected, rich, white male in America who’s not going to change anything too much. Citizens United happened and the wealthy and corporations have all the power and the entire corporate infrastructure lined up to stop the person who was going to attempt to derail their gravy train.

[otatop]

@anon38180840

Bernie should either drop out now or give himself one more debate and one group of elections after that, then drop out assuming he hasn’t massively turned the race.

If he’s still running after March 17th he’s just setting money on fire, he’s going to get wrecked the next two Tuesdays.

[superuberbob]

The Democrats don’t want to win. They benefit hugely from a Trump administration.

They’re rich and Trump has done a ton for the rich. They’re no different from the minority parties in Russia. Sure they put up a token battle but they do alright under a Putin administration. So why try and take over?

[6ix]

@Sean

Bernie doesn’t even support slavery reparations.

He could have announced a black Vice President.

He should both now.

Neither do the black folks who didn’t vote for him, but for different reasons.

Touche on Black VP though.

[feedthabeast]

I mean at the next debate we’re drawing live to Joe shitting himself, losing his teeth etc. so there’s still a small chance.

[bobman0330]

Those sorts of pitches usually only work for males in their 20s who think they’re also boosting their odds of getting laid.

[ViridianDreams]

I don’t care about your opinion.

[6ix]

@ViridianDreams

I’ve already explained it, elsewhere. Bernie has not built any meaningful alliances within the party in 30 years, despite having a significant support from dem constituents. There is no evidence he has even tried. Evidently he got his feelings hurt when Warren implied he was sexist. It’s stupid and naive to think he could win a primary without allies in the party. That should have been one of his top priorities, positioning himself with key potential allies like Warren, so he had some defense against moderates. Even Trump knew he had to bargain with the establishment and worked to get support within the party. That failure is on Bernie.

I suppose the best explanation I can muster is that he figured steadfastly believing what they claimed to believe would be enough of an alliance build.

Like, do we understand how insane it is that we’ve normalized speaking about Bernie as if it’s just natural he should be an enemy of the party?

[6ix]

Once more for the cheap seats:

Like, do we understand how insane it is that we’ve normalized speaking about Bernie as if it’s just natural he should be an enemy of the party?

[microbet]

Your argument is about generic candidates and that’s why it’s wrong. Warren and Sanders should have supported each other if they agree with each other on so much. Bernie should not be looking to help Biden until the blood is mopped up from the convention floor. And if Warren were in the top two and Bernie badly lost all the primaries so far then he should drop out to try to stop Biden.

But, it seems bobman was right about Liz.

[microbet]

Lol at all the takes that Bernie sucks because he’s not a scummy political POS.

[6ix]

@bobman0330

Those sorts of pitches usually only work for males in their 20s who think they’re also boosting their odds of getting laid.

“Male in their 20s who think they’re also boosting their odds of getting laid” was supposed to be Liz’s spirit animal.

@bobman0330

Morpheus voice: What if I told you that her career as a politician is more important to her than policy outcomes?

I’d say welcome to the light side of the force.

[geewhysee]

you think if they came to bernie and said we will pass your M4A bill and guarantee it’ll get signed into law the only caveat is that you have to step down as a senator and never seek political office again he wouldn’t snap accept?

[microbet]

Clovis,

Off the top of your head do you have any idea where the delegate count is and how many are needed to get the nomination?

[6ix]

@anon38180840

If the NYT’s delegate estimate for the end of Super Tuesday is accurate, Bernie should either drop out now or give himself one more debate and one group of elections after that, then drop out assuming he hasn’t massively turned the race.

They’re forecasting 670-589. There will be 2,473 delegates left. If it goes head to head after Super Tuesday, Bernie will need to win 1402/2473 delegates to get a majority, that’s 56.7% and obviously a pipe dream.

To get a plurality, he needs to win 82 more delegates than Biden. That’s 1,278/2,473 or 51.6%. That sounds like it can be done, but he’s already had his best big state to run up the score, keeping in mind that he’s going to lose states and lose some of them BIG like SC, his wins need to start being in the 55-45, 60-40, 65-35 range.

So essentially what I’m saying is, Bernie has no shot barring a sea change among the electorate, and he should give himself one more debate to stand up for his issues and try to make that happen, and if he cannot, he should attempt to get concessions from Biden in exchange for not dragging this out. Maybe a couple progressive cabinet secretaries or something. Maybe some sort of structural change in the party that helps the Jessica Cisneros’ of the world.

Regardless of whether he gets any of that, he should then drop out. If he doesn’t, the criticisms that he cost Biden the election will be somewhat valid - he’ll definitely cost him votes in November by dragging this thing out. There will be a million other reasons Biden loses, but he’ll be one of them.

@6ix

what in the mother fuck

i mean holy shit

[microbet]

@microbet

blood is mopped up from the convention floor.

I want to make it clear to the gods that I mean this metaphorically. Only because microdaughter will be on the convention floor though.

[bobman0330]

I’m not sure. All we know about Bernie’s motivations is that he’s supported progressive political causes and it’s made him one of the most powerful men in the country. It’s reasonable based on that evidence to feel confident that Bernie will advance progressive causes when it’s in his own interest to do so. You’re taking a flyer if you extrapolate this evidence to tell you what he’ll do if those two things came into conflict.

[Crunchyblack]

Parody! In the game!

[6ix]

@microbet

@microbet

blood is mopped up from the convention floor.

I want to make it clear to the gods that I mean this metaphorically. Only because microdaughter will be on the convention floor though.

I’m going to follow the trail of dead to Milwaukee and there will be a trail of dead behind me.