Paging @anon10396289. @anon10396289, do you still think that Russia is not going to invade?
Would also be interested if Trump was actually trying to seize power
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They probably should have replaced it too.
I said that Russia might stage a large raid and then withdraw and/or seize a small pro-Russian area of Ukraine. I said they wouldnât invade and try to hold a large fraction of Ukraine.
Sure, he wasnât
Russia is going to take Ukraine bit by bit Israeli pastrami style until thereâs nothing salvageable?
Iâm not entirely clear on the distinction youâre making between âraiding and seizing a small area of Ukraineâ and âinvading Ukraine.â Like, if Russia occupied the Donbas would that count?
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I guess weâre about to find out.
I suspect itâs not going to matter, because the most likley scenario is they invade/topple the currrent government and install a puppet. I donât know if Keeed will be able to turn that into âRussia didnât actually invade Ukraine and take overâ or not.
Read my posts in the Ukraine thread if you want further clarification.
How in the world were my posts unclear? You seem to think that Russian tanks are going to roll in and at the very least Russia is going to seize all of Eastern Ukraine. I donât think thatâs going to happen.
But itâs very obvious you just want to turn this into some point scoring game, so good luck with that.
Right, exactly. Thatâs why I donât think the Russians will do that. They might try to annex a particularly pro-Russian enclave but theyâd be fools to try to seize and occupy the whole country.
Iâm really not? I actually agree with most of your posts in the Ukraine thread about US involvement and NATO involvement, as you can see from my posting in that thread, except for the âtheyâre not going to invadeâ part.
Do you really think that toppling the government through force and turning Ukraine into a vassal state isnât invading? Or do you think theyâre not going to do that? Iâm genuinely asking.
âPagingâ me into an unrelated thread to ask me what I read as a gotcha question put me on the defensive. Sorry.
Of course I think toppling the government by force and turning Ukraine into a vassal state is invading. But a raid followed by withdrawal, or seizing a small, strongly pro-Russian area like Russia did with Crimea, isnât likely to topple the government, right?
I agree. I donât think thatâs whatâs about to happen though. I donât think Zelensky is still the leader of Ukraine when this thing is done.
How do you think that will go down? Russia invades and occupies all of Ukraine? Sure, thatâd do it.
They donât need to occupy Ukraine indefinitely to topple the government.
The ghost of donald rumsfeld thinks Russia will be greeted as liberators
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The number of people held in ICE detention has increased by 70 percent since Biden took office
Federal prison population has grown for the first time in a decade
Covid relief funds are being used to pad local police budgets
Good thing we elected a Democrat.
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