Man, the case from earlier today v Vance is buck wild to listen to lol.
I find it meditative to transcribe court cases so have been transcribing as I listen to this one. Man are there some doozies literally every time Consovoy speaks.
Katz: As your adversary informs us in their brief, the Trump organization has made four productions. And that includes two after the lawsuit was filed. Are you objecting now to the entirety of the Mazar subpoena? Or is your objection limited to the tax returns?
Cons: We are objecting to the entirety of the subpoena. We view the entire subpoena as an inappropriate fishing expedition. Not made in good faith. And while the president has declined to assert immunities he might otherwise have the authority to invoke, with respect to other subpoenas,
Chin: [inaudible] Why would that pick up the organizations?
Cons: So the immunity extends certainly to the president, in our view.
Katz: Absolutely, you say?
Cons: [laughs] Absolutely, yes.
Katz: Wait, which is different from the, it seems to be somewhat different from the DOJ’s view as to immunity.
Cons: I’m sorry, as to…?
Katz: As to presidential immunity.
Cons: I don’t think there’s real daylight between our position and the DOJ. With respect to [stammers] [stammers some more] I’ll certainly answer both questions as the court allows. With respect to why it would extend to the organizations, the organizations are being targeted not just with respect to them, but with respect to the president’s personal information to which they have possession. And so, there has to be an anti-circumvention rule underneath these kinds of immunities, otherwise, they don’t work. You can imagine a multitude of scenarios in which the true target of the subpoena, just like with the Mazar subpoena, is personal records of the president being held.
Chin: You’re ignoring the corporate form. These are entities that clearly have an existence. They operate, they conduct business.
Cons: That is true. They’re also wholly owned by the president. And they do hold his personal records. And his personal records are being sorted out.
That last line about Trump ownership is mega lolemoluments