Oh interesting, thanks for that. I’m sure my partner has explained this to me 120381284 times haha.
I mean GMO is just awful for health of humans and soils etc. I avoid it at all costs (does make life super expensive).
fuck did i step on another troll account?
literally everything you can buy is already gmo. congrats i just saved you a million dollars.
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GMO is a neutral technology. Making stuff pesticide or herbicide resistant so you can pile more chemicals on it is not great though.
Derail incoming.
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wat
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agreed.
Good read, thanks.
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Bro!!! After everything Trump did for you??
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I know Jon Cooper sucks but would this really surprise anyone?
https://mobile.twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1320581695507226630
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Putin can read poles. It doesn’t hurt to remind Trump he’s in a bad spot. It will make him more compliant during his small remaining time in office.
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Krugman has been calling this for months.
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no he can’t read poles, he’s gone egomaniacal and stir crazy in the bunker. but he probably does realize an endorsement from him is sus AF to western democracies.
I can see Trump overcoming his fear of heights long enough to climb on the Resolute desk, whip out the old mushroom and pee on everything in range. His petulance knows no bounds.
Putin’s in a bunker? It must at least be well appointed compared to my place. And he can always call his buddy Trump for company. All I have is UP. I know stir crazy.
Yeah meant pesticides etc (and implict endorsement of Monsanto).
Pardon my ignorance lol. I guess I’ll have a talk to my partner she/her family are absolutely nuts about how bad GMO and how bad pestisides are for you. All ironman participants/health nutjobs mind you.
This guy has a great podcast btw but maybe I’m just a nutjob troll!
Anyway, end of derail I am genuinely not invested in this beyond responding to someone calling me a troll.
I’m not going to derail beyond this one post, but they are really really wrong. GMOs and modern agriculture are essential. If all crops were grown “organic” we’d need something like 3x as much farmland as we currently have to feed all the faces. That would probably be less than optimal for the health of the planet.
Companies (Monsanto) can be fucking terrible and evil, but GMOs themselves are a modern miracle. They are one of the few things keeping our heads above water. Anti-GMO sentiment is every bit as wrong as anti-vax, and much more damaging.
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This puts Glenn greenwald in quite the pickle!
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Thanks for the input. Had a long chat with partner. She is super anti-pestiside (carcinogens, birth defects etc) and stubborn AF about it. But she isn’t exactly a person with her ear to the ground in regards to land-use and the extremely bloated population of earth. She’s an idealist who thinks we can live with 10bn people on organic food. I swear she has other good qualities though haha.
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It’s not unreasonable at all to be worried about overuse of agricultural chemicals but talking about “GMO” in that regard seems like conflating two separate issues. For example, from the link you posted earlier:
In 2016, The New York Times released an extensive examination in which they compared two continents – North American (which embraces genetically modified crops and Europe (which banned them). What the researchers found was that there was no difference in crop yield, and the U.S. growers saw a 21 percent increase in herbicide use with the introduction of these crops.
I have no idea if this is factual or not, but assuming it is - is a 21% increase in use of herbicides going to be the difference between toxicity and not? Is your partner totally cool if we just put 83% of the US use of herbicide on her food? If not, then how is opposing GMO relevant? Isn’t the correct issue to campaign on just the direct regulation of herbicide use?
In my experience a lot of people are opposed to GMO because they have a general sense of ickiness about it, but can’t justify that, so they retreat into “overuse of herbicides” which is the easiest thing to defend. Other things you can do with GMO include making crops cope with less water, or hotter conditions, or produce food more efficiently. In my view these are things we should be pursuing and the blanket “anti GMO” campaign is doing the world a disservice.
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