George Washington, James Madison, and Ulysses S. Grant owned slaves. That immediately stops you from being a good person.
Al-awlaki’s son was a civilian and a 16 year old boy at that. The “targeted killing” program under Obama targeted people without a trial of any kind. Whether they were terrorists or not is unknown to us.
As for targeting innocents:
And of course a claim from the man himself:
The whole didn’t targer civilians thing is complete bullshit. They targeted terrorists well aware of who was around them and decided that the civilian deaths were worth the deaths of the terrorists in question.
Eh I think there is something to be said about the times people lived in. Like pretty much all the Romans owned slaves. Even the lower middle class ones. It was just a way of life. Unless we’re gonna assume there were 0 good in the roman days I think it’d more depend on how you treated them back then.
I’m sure at some point in the future someone will be somewhere arguing we we’re all pieces of shit for using technology that came from essentially slaves in China and mined in places like Africa etc. And they kinda aren’t wrong but at the same time sometimes with the way society is built its super hard to avoid.
But yeah by Washingtons time it was pretty well accepted that owning slaves was immoral so I’ll agree with you on those three.
It should also be kept in mind when creating a democracy that it was only a democracy for land-owning white men. They knowingly suppressed the voices of everyone else. I would argue doing that is immoral.
Among the founding fathers, antislavery delegates punted on the issue for fear that no Constitution would ever be created at all. They didn’t even bring it up. They could have stood their ground but chose to allow enslavement to continue.
A) this seems pretty hypocritical considering Mitch’s argument has been that the house should stay out of discussions of how the senate runs its business. The constitution doesn’t give the senate the option of ignoring articles. (granted, mitch couldn’t give two fucks about appearing hypocritical)
I think ‘I’m rubber you’re glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you’ politics is appropriate in this day and age, but forgetting to add ‘No backsies’ is…similar to the recent vote limiting Trump’s war powers while stating it’s merely a suggestion. I guess I don’t have a point.
" The last president to personally own enslaved people was Ulysses S. Grant, who served two terms between 1869 and 1877. The former commanding general of the Union Army had kept a lone black slave named William Jones in the years before the Civil War, but gave him his freedom in 1859."
Your inability to acknowledge being wrong is pretty pathetic.