The NFL Thread 2: 1. T Swift

That wasn’t me but yeah, that was why I was pointing it out.

I tried to google before too and similarly was getting stuff mistimed. I mainly remember from Bill Simmons’ preview pod.

9/1/22 article

And despite a lot of changeover at wide receiver and in the defensive secondary, the Chiefs enter the season at +160 to win the West.

The West looks to be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL. The Los Angeles Chargers are at +250 to win the division after adding Khalil Mack and J.C. Jackson to their defense and the Denver Broncos are at +260 to take the division after the arrival of Russell Wilson. The Las Vegas Raiders are the division underdog at +650 but have the shortest odds of any division underdog.

PFR also has the preseason super bowl odds. They have Denver 8th and KC 6th. So it appears you guys are probably right KC was still the favorite.

Outside of the fact they’re obviously trying to salvage Russ, numerous commentators frequently mention how new owners want to make big splashy moves. It’s probably more likely that at play than fan-interest motivations imo.

Very well could be.

In a hypothetical as Denver’s owner I’ve been asking myself what I would do. I’m not really sure. They owe $232m in salaries for next season and are a dumpster fire. It seems like either do something desperate like this or just stand pat and try and rebuild.

They owe Courtland Sutton and Tim Patrick $30m combined next year. How is that possible lol.

If I was advising an owner of a team that is massively underwater, I would recommend not trading draft picks.

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I didn’t even realize they traded a 1st round pick for Payton (not to mention the 2nd for 3rd swap). I was assuming they traded mid-round picks at worst. WTF.

Just ignore everything I typed earlier. That is pretty indefensible.

Who is starting for Tampa next year? Veteran or do they go re-build?

Obvious disclaimer: on the off-chance Brady doesn’t un-retire again

I got some major “Good morning Julia” guy vibes from Brady’s retirement. You judge for yourself.

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Jimmy G?

The thing I want to believe is that the league pissed him off, so he sits around during the week thinking of the dumbest shit possible to say like, “you have to go for it here, but they should punt this ball.”

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Trading any pick, let alone picks, let alone 1st round pick for a head coach is completely off-the-rails batshit insane. It’s worse than the Russ trade by a huge amount.

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Generally, no. But I think if Brady is bad at announcing and Fox has some terrible 4pm game, maybe they’ll stick around to hate watch. The GOAT gets people big mad.

Probably not consciously, but I’d be willing to bet the NFL gets better feedback on games with a better TV crew, even if people don’t necessarily single that out as a reason why.

https://twitter.com/Nationals/status/1620909962703806464?t=mll8f2acbZBISQujdFRO8w&s=19

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now I feel old, I remember going to an Expos game in high school

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In general I agree of course. In Denver’s case the opportunity cost of doing it is much lower than most teams. It likely doesn’t matter what they do over the next 5 years maybe longer. That’s really the only point I was trying to make.

That being said i didn’t realize they gave up a first for a coach at the time. Holy shit that is bad.

This is who they owe the majority of their cap money to over the next two years:

Which yes does make trading the picks worse. But still it’s impossible to imagine building a competitive team when you owe 60% of your cap space to that list of players and still need 40 players at 2-3m per to fill out your roster. On top of that you are in a divison with Mahomes and Herbert.

I think that’s how most teams’ caps are set up. 10 guys account for a huge chunk of everyone’s cap and everyone else is minimums and rookie deals.

Are the 10 players mostly garbage though?

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Coaches should count against the cap. That would make for some fun interactions in tbe locker room.