Haha, that’s okay, I don’t need the full origin story. Just felt like there was no need to tag me just to insult me, moreso now that he’s shown out to be what I thought he could be. Sorry I missed it the first time.
I am much more excited to see Trevor Lawrence in the playoffs than Josh Dobbs, that’s for sure.
Yeah, that’s true. Luck in his second year was 13th-16th in most statistical categories, not top ten, while being a year older than Lawrence is now.
Luck was pretty good in his sophomore (age 24) year, but not sure he was quite as good then as Lawrence has been this year. TLaw had Luck snookered in just about every important stat (including age).
*loser talk warning *
The bad throw to zay Jones that should have been a td that lawerence missed. The throw is bad. But…
Earlier in the year in a similar spot with pressure in his face trevor threw a game losing pick while a Wideout ran free. Tonight he airmailed a pass. It didn’t cost them the game.
It’s those little things seeing a guy develop. The kirk corner route td and 1st down throw. The throw to Jones that he didn’t catch. The corner to kirk that he didn’t bring in. The drop by kirk on the whip route.
Throws he showed only once a game to start this year. Tonight he made everyone of the throws minus the Jones throw.
It doesn’t matter what happens next week. Those throws show me so much.
end loser talk
Yeah, I’m not sure I can verify it by the numbers (maybe you could with film?), but he seemed to take a real leap in efficiency starting in week 9 vs. the Raiders. He was solid to start the year but he’s been more accurate and more efficient from that point forward. Probably not the only reason the Jags went from a 2-6 streak to a 7-2 one, but it sure helps. (Defense looked good tonight, too.)
Correct. For your reference, a comparison of their second seasons, both stats and ranks within the league. (I left out tonight’s game, because I can’t calculate the advanced stats for it anyway-- but, hey, they each get 16 games this way, so close enough):
| Andrew Luck (2013) | Trevor Lawrence (2022)
DOB / Age | 9/12 (24) | 10/6 (23)
Yards | 3822 (13th) | 3901 (9th)
TDs | 23 (t-15th) | 24 (t-10th)
Comp. % | 60.2% (23rd) | 66.5% (13th)
INT % | 1.6 (6th) | 1.4 (6th)
Sack % | 5.3 (8th) | 4.5 (4th)
ANY/A | 6.06 (16th) | 6.65 (9th)
DVOA | 4.6% (16th) | 12.1% (10th)
DYAR | 650 (14th) | 866 (7th)
Cope harder
Going there as a Seattle fan how ever many years after they left the afc still wasn’t fun. No way I’d wear a Seattle jersey. Going in to that stadium with chiefs jersey or pretty much any opponents jersey always seemed insane to me.
Yeah if I’m going to spend that much money, I want to have fun, not be constantly looking over my shoulder doing threat assessments.
I went to opening day at coliseum and tailgated wearing mariners gear. Everyone was cool before the game but after the game walking back to my car I was getting some yells but I wasnt ever worried. Seemed like normal trash talk.
Couldn’t imagine the walk back after a raiders game where they lost and you have an elway jersey or something on. Someone did still my little Webber though!
Well, I can give some basic numbers that I can get easily, at least. I don’t have the resources to break down the advanced stats further, but I can do the best I can do from PFR’s available data.
Weeks 1-8: 62.45% completion, 10 TD, 6 INT, 6.64 Y/A, 6.39 AY/A
Weeks 9-17: 70.55% completion, 14 TD, 2 INT, 7.49 Y/A, 8.19 AY/A
For the whole season, 6.39 AY/A would have put him 26th. 8.19 would’ve put him 5th. (His actual season total is 7.28, good for 11th.)
While we can’t necessarily say the leap is real and the numbers may overstate it, his talent and pedigree makes a good case for it being real, and there is a logical explanation for why it took some time for the light to come on: His rookie year was basically a wasted year with such a shitshow of a coach and a not particularly good roster, and as a result it may have taken him some extra time to properly adjust to the NFL and to shake off any bad habits learned in 2021.
Trevor showed some solid improvement this year, but imo still has some mechanical issues (see the missed td fade away hop throw) that can be cleaned up.
Honestly though, having a credible professional coach/offensive scheme is super valuable, as is having some better players around him. Those are the pieces that really help qbs from a statistical standpoint.
If he keeps cleaning up his mechanics and improving his pocket awareness, he absolutely should be a consistent top 10 qb.
Everyone seems really quick to cut Trevor some slack for having to deal with Urb, but without taking anything away for him being coached by Pederson. Maybe Pederson is making him look better than he really is. The guy put together a SB team with Wentz and Foles slinging it. Maybe he’s just really getting the most out of shit QBs.
The only nfl stadiums I have attended as a cowboys fan were the 95 NFC Championship game versus the 49ers, and the game in New Jersey versus the giants in 2009, which the cowboys won, and giants fans wanted to fire coughlin after the game even though they won the Super Bowl that year.
Neither crowd was particularly scary. I had a couple of chances to go to Philly games but I am not going there. Also the worst fans I ever came in contact with were Pittsburgh fans at the 96 Super Bowl in Arizona. I had multiple run ins with bad people from Pittsburgh that weekend.
I went to a GB-Dallas playoff game in Dallas with a bunch of Packer fans and don’t remember any incidents.
I do remember something weird like you couldn’t buy alcohol before noon (this would have been '94-ish).
Yeah cowboys fans always been very milquetoast and lots of teams travel well there including Green Bay. Biggest travelers I ever saw were KC though.
The NFC title game in Philly over Minnie was beyond awesome. Stadium felt like the whole thing was floating as the Eagles rolled.
Loudest stadium I was in also was a Minnesota loss. 2000 NFCCG at Giants stadium. Never was at a place that literally shook before.
Lol Minnesota finished 13-4 with a negative point differential.
Going to be a weird wildcard round assuming the Packers win.
Niners-Pack grudge match
Vikes-Giants 2 teams you can’t trust
Bucs-Cowboys. Inconsistent bowl
Thinking giants are winning and coming to Philly. Niners should win at home. Flip a coin TB-DAL.
I’ll happily bet on Dallas at even odds