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Anyone who can get the Bengals a winning record over a multi year stretch is a good coach.

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Man I’ve got lots of emotional issues and played a lot of sports and I don’t find his behavior even a little bit relatable.

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well, maybe it’s a competitiveness issue as well.

I marvel at pro soccer players that run around with a heart-rate of 150 bpm, and they get dumped by a defender on a questionable challenge, and they maintain their professionalism.

brain function isn’t optimal under that amount of stress, lol but they do it.

There are too many legitimate outlets in football that there is nothing normal about taking cheap shots all the time.

The guy has been suspended 15 times now. It is absurd. He has a serious disorder. If the players were smart they would demand a lifetime ban but they are too afraid of creating a punishment slippery slope.

His hit Sunday was like a serial killer snapping and crossing the line. Was zero reason to do it and he wasn’t already committed. He intentionally tried to give someone brain damage.

Agree, there are no excuses for this shit. He intentionally goes out of his way to injure people, full stop. I’m not giving him a pass because his violence takes place on a football field, and I’m not giving him a pass because he plays nice with the neighborhood kids. All these chodes screaming “but that’s just football” can go fuck themselves because it isn’t, at all.

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Cobb would never get signed in today’s market.

If there was a bigger asshole in sports, it would be hard to find, even though that biopic is said to be bullshit.

Robert Wuhl came out hard against the pushback against the accuracy of Cobb and Stump’s book and he has a point in that nearly all of the refutations came from…members of the Cobb family.

The movie was…something…

I never read the book.

I mean no one has refuted, as far as I know, that he

-gambooled heavily on baseball

-went into the stands once to beat up a handicapped fan

-was universally despised by fellow players

The last one is particularly damning even if you don’t believe the other two. I mean Bonds was/is an asshole but at least his teammates liked him and respected his talent.

Also I thought Jones delivered an Oscar worthy performance in the movie fwiw, certainly better than what he did in The Fugitive anyway.

In other words, Presidential material

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He sharpened his spikes too. As a former third baseman I would be scared of him going wheels up like he liked to do. I will say I had an accidental Ty Cobb moment at TCU baseball camp when I was 16. I spiked a 10 year old, but he probably shouldn’t have gotten in the way…oops.

Funny thing is I did something for that movie. I never realized it was a theatrical release, and thought it was like an HBO movie. 1994 was a tough year for movies, and there’s no way that one would have broken through at awards season, especially with its paltry gross.

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Marketing was shit to non existent for Cobb. By the time I heard about it, it was at Blockbuster

Ironic because Wuhl is an Academy member and voter (he may not have been back then though)

The only info on boxofficemojo.com has that it opened in 4 theaters in December 1994, with a $1m gross (not from those 4 theaters). That just means they put it in for Academy Awards season probably in hopes of getting Tommy Lee Jones an Oscar nod. The rest of the movie looked very low rent to me. I seem to remember it being a decent movie that was extremely hard to watch because of 'Cobb’s behavior. I probably did my work on it in 2003, might have been 2002 so it’s hard to remember.

It was for a very long time. Nfl history is full of maniacs who brutalized people and were celebrated for it. Violence sells.
Same in hockey. Hockey developed fighting to try to manage such behavior, which brought it’s own excesses.
Progress is slow sometimes. (but enough politics)

Aaron Hernandez?

Touche, though it’s uncertain how many people Cobb killed.