I must have missed this the first time around. Since this is an AMA, Inso0, do you think dinosaurs existed? If not why not?
If you used to think they didn’t exist but have changed your opinion, what was the basis for your earlier opinion.
I must have missed this the first time around. Since this is an AMA, Inso0, do you think dinosaurs existed? If not why not?
If you used to think they didn’t exist but have changed your opinion, what was the basis for your earlier opinion.
Now why would anyone take a fully grown animal when an adolescent would do just fine? They’re smaller, they require SIGNIFICANTLY less food, and they are more resistant to any number of ailments that older animals are not.
Let me ask you this, Mr. Evolutionist:
Can you please explain to me how a 45 ton, 90 foot long, 45 foot high Brachiosaurus can take in enough oxygen through nostrils the size of a modern day horse? Have you ever tried breathing for any length of time out of a straw only 2 mm in diameter?Think about that, and you’ve got a much larger problem on your hands than fitting a dinosaur on a boat.
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10474760&page=0&fpart=all&vc=1
No, but we just roll with it now because it makes people feel better about themselves.
Just read that whole thread.
Holy shit! It’s real and it’s spectacular.
Ok, now I’m confused again. Which of these are you saying.
I must have missed this the first time around. Since this is an AMA, Inso0, do you think dinosaurs existed? If not why not?
If you used to think they didn’t exist but have changed your opinion, what was the basis for your earlier opinion.
Because this is a new forum, I’ll give you the cliff notes:
At no point in my life did I deny the existence of dinosaurs. In fact, I was one of the kids who loved dinosaurs and had all the big cool hardcover books of them.
The original nostril size comment came like 15 years ago in a discussion about prehistoric atmosphere. I did a quick skim of the post quoted above, and I don’t see that context mentioned but I don’t particularly feel the need to defend the above statement very fiercely so I just skimmed the surrounding posts. I’m certain I would’ve shot down any “dinosaurs don’t exist? LOL” comments at the time as well. Fossils are pretty clear on that. At risk of creating yet another meme now, one of the prevailing theories about where the biblical flood waters would’ve come from is a literal shell of ice surrounding the early earth. IIRC, that meant atmospheric pressure and oxygen levels would’ve been significantly higher, allowing animals the size of some of those truly massive dinos to exist.
I stand by the assertion that if I were in charge of making Noah’s Ark happen, I’d bring juveniles and genetics would handle diversification afterward. Sorry, Chihuahuas, we’re only bringing some Grey Wolves and letting future generations bring you back into existence.
2007 Inso0 was way more aggressive and heavy handed. I wouldn’t even want to read it all tbh. Like looking back at shit you said in your college terms papers. Yikes.
I don’t think it’s deniable that the Brontosaurus types couldn’t exist in today’s atmospheric conditions. They’d suffocate because there’s no possible way to get enough oxygen in through their tiny nostrils.
That was ultimately my point.
Are you claiming Noah’s ark was something that actually happened?
I’m going to preemptively stop the “ITT, Inso0 defends all the crazy shit in the bible” requests, because I can’t and won’t. We’d be coming at it from different points of view. In mine, there’s a very real possibility and imo near certainty that the universe did not manifest on its own. So if you’re going to accept that someone can create a universe, you’re going to have to concede that said deity can do some whacky shit with it afterward.
I am not a bible thumper and don’t particularly care to proselytize people. That probably makes me a bad Christian, but nobody’s perfect.
I really don’t see a need for anybody to continue bringing up Inso’s old posts.
I don’t think it’s deniable that the Brontosaurus types couldn’t exist in today’s atmospheric conditions.
I was gonna gotcha that Brontosaurus never existed, but . When I was a kid they said it was the biggest, then for a long time they said there was no such thing and it was confused with another species, but apparently since 2015 they are saying it really was a separate species.
Don’t feel bad, I had a vague recollection of the same and googled it before I wrote that post to make sure they were still a legit dino.
I really don’t see a need for anybody to continue bringing up Inso’s old posts.
I’ll take partial responsibility, but there is no way I can see “Inso0 thinks dinosaurs didn’t exist because their nostrils are too small” and not want to take a look behind the curtain. And that linked thread was gold, so I’m gonna give myself a pass.
Chihuahua murderer
Always happy to help. The 2 year self ban from 2p2 gave me the time to morph into the beautiful butterfly you enjoy now.
I am not a bible thumper and don’t particularly care to proselytize people. That probably makes me a bad Christian, but nobody’s perfect.
You’re a bad Christian for other reasons.
You ever actually read the New Testament? Why don’t we start with Matthew 25:31-46? What is the message there?
Banning Inso?
That’s pretty damn unfortunate actually if they’re are moderators here thinking that it is a good idea for a politics forum.
Are you claiming Noah’s ark was something that actually happened?
Ins0, it’s not lost on any of us that you can’t answer this very simple question.
I don’t get why this is a question. He said he is a Christian and that god does crazy things. His answer is yes.
I’m probably the most militant atheist on this forum but I don’t see how this belief would preclude him from holding other unrelated beliefs about rent etc. If that was the measure the majority of Americans would be precluded from voicing an opinion.
Not that such a metric wouldn’t be a net good for society.
As I said, I’m not the right person to have your theological debates with. Children with incurable cancer is outside my wheelhouse.
Trolly, if there’s one thing I’ve learned in the last 13 years, it’s don’t get into arguments on the internet about anything to do with religion or religious documents. We could go down the thought experiment road and argue about the true length of cubits or how many animals it would really take to have enough genetic diversity to reach what we see today, but the entire time you’d just be thinking, “This motherfucker is sitting here trying to be serious when I’m pretty sure he thinks Jesus had a pet Velociraptor” and it wouldn’t go anywhere.
In my average day, I spend approximately 0.1% of my time thinking about things of a spiritual nature. It’s one of many personal failings.