The Crypto Thread

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To add to thisā€¦

These videos are 18 months old but still very relevant.

Projects have fallen in and out of favor but these do a good job of going over the basics of DeFi. Diagrams are pretty helpful if youā€™re new. The channel also has some videos on NFTs.

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Wouldnā€™t that be a good buy & hold investment?

Not in my opinion. Most of them are going to fail.

I mean, I have some like Gala and Mines of Dalarnia where I think they might be long-term successful and I donā€™t have an immediate exit planned. But Iā€™m still keeping a close eye on them in case I need to jump ship. Things move and change fast.

Also, those high yields donā€™t last. The reason theyā€™re that high is to provide incentive for people to stake risky projects in the early stages. They tend to drop over time.

Thereā€™s no way the squares are worse at NFTs than these Texans are at PLO at these semi legal card rooms. Jesus Christ

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This is like moneymaker boom days

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Or finding a high apr staking situation on a chain with super low gas fees.

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Iā€™ll briefly add my experiences here, though Iā€™d say a lot more if I had the time.

I started with a roll of about $7500 about 6 weeks ago and when ETH was about 25% higher. My literal first two NFT-actions were getting scammed for ~$350 and then buying into another collection that tanked by 80% almost immediately. And Iā€™ve had <EV luck on most of the mints Iā€™ve had so-far, generally ending up in the bottom 1/3 of collection rarity (though with a small sample size).

But despite the inauspicious start, Iā€™ve more than doubled my initial roll. More valuable than that, though, has been the collective experience of sharing in this with everyone else on the discord. The best UP-related comparison I can make is in the November 2019 thread live-blogging Trumpā€™s election loss, when the forum was united in excitement and mutual appreciation. This feels similar, but with the addition of incredible generosity and shared knowledge/encouragement from everyone. Those who have struck rich are eager to share the experience with others, and those on the way up are excited to participate in something new. When someone strikes it big with a five-figure score (which happens almost nightly), the groupā€™s culture is one of shared exuberance and celebration rather than bitterness or jealousy.

The whole experience is wild, and there are many aspects of the whole NFT phenomenon that are absolutely in a bubble. But Iā€™m grateful that @Goofyballer posted about the Wolf Game madness because it inspired me to participate in something that - while it may not make me rich - Iā€™ll remember forever. And Iā€™m posting here as well, in case it inspires anyone else to join the party.

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Lot of people asking about long term holds and safe plays and Iā€™m not sure if there any good answers in the NFT space. I think there are definitely drops that the discord would grade higher than others in terms of likelihood of being profitable at some point but we donā€™t really have any such formal grading system (although maybe we should?). For example, pakā€™s merge (a white dot on a black background) was the closest thing to a free money must-buy Iā€™ve seen in a while. Would have graded it an A/A+ and it was a great buy for new people due to ease and the fact that it was an ~$800 to $900 auto-profit for flippers. Those drops arenā€™t too frequent, but seems like maybe about the level of involvement some people here have expressed who are interested but canā€™t stay plugged in 24/7.

Follow up poll for the crypto/NFT winners:

How much of your winnings have you taken off the table into hard currency?
  • All-in baby and adding more whenever I can
  • All-in but not adding more
  • Skimmed off 1-25%
  • Taken 26-50% out
  • Taken 51-75% out
  • Taken 76-90% out
  • Still piddling with 1-10% in the game
  • All-out baby - riding off into the sunset

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How bad do you feel about investing in the literal nut low of human civilization, cruise stonks, while the world is burning?

  • Give zero shits, 4% a year is heaven
  • At least it isnā€™t jpegs!
  • I can retire by 64 instead of 65!
  • Cruises are the peak of human civilization

0 voters

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Results donā€™t lie

I sportsbet for a living. Itā€™s not easy and if you think you can just eyeball teams and bet and win, you canā€™t. Best thing for small roll is exotics like player props that donā€™t scale well and therefore arenā€™t gamed out by the big boys, but youā€™re still going to have to do some number crunching.

Dammit I edited the poll title and lost some votes. :(

ā€œHardā€ currency, like the kind that loses value year over year for the last several decades

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To be fair, I think everyone here agrees holding US Dollars isnā€™t a great long-term investment.

Sure. Hard currency sucks. Itā€™s just a question. Iā€™m legitimately impressed with money people here have made in crypto, and curious where everyone stands on taking gains out of the ecosystem. Not trying to needle anyone.

Itā€™s like anything tbh. You take some gains out and leave some in. A diversified strategy. The extent people do is quite varied.

Hence the poll (that got you all salty :stuck_out_tongue: )

I think we had 2 all out babies and two other that I canā€™t remember before I changed the title and accidentally deleted the votes.

Iā€™m not really salty but the point you seem to miss is no one continuously shows up to punch you in the dick for investing in cruise stonks even though it is enormously low hanging fruit. Meanwhile you think telling a decent chunk of people here that you think they have tulip mania for months on end(really years) is totally fine. Itā€™s kind of weird.

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