This is just wrong. It would end up banning a very tiny number of words.
I mean, you’ve nailed it on the head. This is “a few British Guys 2020, Fuck your feelings!”
I find it interesting that there are some other British posters on this board who strangely, just don’t seem to ever use that word! So weird. They must just not be culturally in tune with the importance of the word I guess.
Depends how you define “minorities”.
If I find the word “cuddly” offensive, I might be in a minority of 1. Still a minority that needs to be pandered to, right?
Not a trick answer, but no. And this is a silly “slippery slope” argument.
Do you find the word cuddly offensive?
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One would have thought that as a lawyer, you might have realised that we are arguing a bigger issue here. Guess you weren’t a very good lawyer, since it’s even been spelled out a number of times for you.
I agree with your point, but I don’t find it persuasive or useful to this specific conversation.
We are discussing specific people and a specific word. Obviously there are broad practical limits if you try to make everyone happy, but exploring the unhealthy consequences of trying to please everyone is counterproductive to this conversation. That’s not what I’m advocating, and I urge you to read my posts again if you think I am. I have addressed this in virtually every recent post of mine on the matter so am not sure what else to say to you unless your posts acknowledge what I’ve said.
Only after sex.
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I mean, you’re just being intellectually dishonest if you’re claiming that there is some minority group that finds cuddly offensive in the same way that women in the US and many other western nations find the c word offensive.
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As a lawyer, I’m well aware that “slippery slope” arguments like the one you are making are always bullshit.
Ok, so we agree that there is some subjective judgement on your part as to what is a reasonable word to ban, then? Good, glad we are getting somewhere.
No. The reason for the offense matters. If people object to the word “piss” because it’s uncouth and would rather people use the more respectable “urine,” that’s a very different issue than banning racial, sexual, or LGBTQ slurs that demean people for who they are.
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The word in dispute here is objectively super offensive to women in the US and many other nations. This is a fact.
Define “objectively” in this context, please, counsel.
No.
You are. And some of us refuse to pick up the other end of the rope.
I’m not exploring that side of the topic with you. You are welcome to continue inviting people to have that conversation. I just don’t think largesse claims of a slippery slope are helpful to what we are discussing.
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I’m obviously playing devil’s advocate a bit here. But if I wanted to go the slippery slope route, I could find something in any word that would offend someone.
It just continues to be really telling that there is a tiny minority here who continues using the word despite being told repeatedly how offensive it is. Whether or not the majority of the forum wants the word banned, it’s a real small number of people who seem to be actively using it to try to make some kind of macho “fuck your feelings, trump 2020!” type of point.
Nope, I’m not your teacher, mate.
Newsflash, btw: nobody actually uses the word on this forum. This debate is purely academic. You could probably find a handful of posts where someone has actually used the word, outside of these debates. I might be guilty of it a single time, marty probably similar, fidget actually had a go at me before for even using it. You guys realise nobody is actually arguing to use it, right?
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Creating a caricature of a person you can imagine would be offended by something is a massive waste of time. The only terms anyone here would take seriously are the slurs I described for the reason I desribed. Being offended by the word “plethora” because it’s an unnecessarily gaudy word when any number of plainer ones would do is not the kind of offense that anyone is going to take seriously.
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