Bit late to the party but this doesn’t make any sense. If your daughter who goes to OSU needs an abortion, you just fly her somewhere that she can get one. EZ game.
That should be easy for any individual who you are applying the term “brain drain” to. They would be able to cough up a couple grand or whatever it takes to get it done. It’s basically an extra tax, that they probably won’t have to pay. But if it comes to it, then they can afford it with ease.
Just throwing this out there. econophile posted some data related to net migration during the pandemic that show Florida and Texas are the big winners of late. The data is only through May 2022, so it wouldn’t include any changes in patterns since Roe v Wade was overturned. The TSLA Market / Economy - #8273 by econophile
A little-known European medical team is poised to become one of the most important groups in the shifting landscape of U.S. abortion bans.
Aid Access, an online-only service run by a Dutch physician, Dr. Rebecca Gomperts, began shipping abortion pills to Americans from abroad four years ago. The organization’s team consists of about four doctors supervising about 10 medical staff members, and they’re difficult for U.S. authorities to reach because all are outside the country and they ship pills from a pharmacy in India.
Woman wants to fight a ticket for being in the HOV lane because her fetus now counts as a person
I asked Amy O’Donnell, spokeswoman for Texas Alliance for Life, an anti-abortion group, what she thought of this unusual situation.
She replied, “While the penal code in Texas recognizes an unborn child as a person in our state, the Texas Transportation Code does not specify the same. And a child residing in a mother’s womb is not taking up an extra seat. And with only one occupant taking up a seat, the car did not meet the criteria needed to drive in that lane.”
I also explained the story to Planned Parenthood of Greater Texas, but through a representative, the group declined to comment.
This means that the harshest restrictions on abortion are yet to come. As the anti-abortion movement works toward its goal of a nationwide abortion ban, we can expect it to pursue three major legal strategies now that Roe has been overruled.
First, states will stretch the reach of their abortion penalties outside their borders. For instance, recent model legislation from the National Right to Life Committee extends application of state laws to minors who cross state lines to get an abortion, and legislators in states including Missouri, South Dakota, and Arkansas are debating potential bills that would make traveling to get an abortion difficult.
This strategy is legally suspect; a variety of constitutional provisions should curb states’ extraterritorial reach. In fact, Justice Brett Kavanaugh recognized a right to travel in his Dobbs concurrence, albeit just for the patient seeking services. But as the dissent in Dobbs points out, and as we have previously argued, it is not at all clear that federal courts would agree that cross-border laws are unconstitutional in this very undeveloped area of law. And even if it were clearer that states could not punish interstate abortion travel or target providers offering care to out-of-state residents, attempts to do so, even if stopped by the courts, might have a chilling effect.
Second, people seeking abortions and the people assisting them, not just providers, will be targets of civil and criminal punishment. The same model legislation mentioned above recommends criminalizing anyone who aids or abets an abortion, a clause possibly broad enough to include someone who provides funds, offers a ride to the clinic, or helps with child care while a person receives abortion care, wherever it occurs. The grandmother who drives a minor to New Mexico from Texas could face legal repercussions when she returns home. Already, in Texas, prosecutors have threatened abortion funds with liability, causing some to stop offering help.
Relatedly, up until now, abortion bans have typically excluded the pregnant person from criminal liability. But that could change too. Medication abortion ends a pregnancy through 10 or so weeks with two drugs taken sequentially. Because abortion pills cross borders in ways states will find hard to police, legislators and prosecutors could turn their attention to punishing the people who take them. Even if the state law does not allow this prosecution, arrests that create media attention will likely scare patients.
Third, legislation will seek to confer the rights of personhood at conception and thus redefine abortion as well as pregnancy. For example, Louisiana recently considered a bill that would confer legal rights “from the moment of fertilization.” Alabama passed a statute in 2019, which soon should take effect now that Dobbs has been decided, that defines life as beginning at conception. Such measures provide prosecutors with a new arsenal of ordinary criminal laws because abortion could be murder, and anyone who helps with an abortion could be liable as a conspirator. Further, defining life at conception means anything that endangers a fertilized egg could be an abortion, even if the embryo has not yet implanted. This change, at the level of state legislation, could sweep into a ban on certain forms of birth control and fertility services and cause risk-averse providers to refuse to prescribe women drugs that could cause miscarriage.
Deplorables will get their abortions if needed though. They’ll tell themselves that their situation was different while simultaneously taking that choice away from those less fortunate.
Some deplorables will have a hard time coming up with money and other resources (like time). In the post Roe world, a lot of poor people will have a really tough time getting abortions. The strain on a poorer households now trying to get an abortion in the US is intense. This recent article in the New Yorker is really eye opening about what this stuff looks like at ground level, not as an abstract legal/policy debate.
Well of course, the deplorables of means don’t care about their poor brethren being able to have access any more than they do about the dirty libs. They want them to continue to be miserable at the same time they keep reliably voting GOP over and over again (which they will, ldo).
Deplorables don’t actually see any connection between their political affiliation and bad outcomes. They just reverse engineer the libs as the problem in every scenario they don’t like.
Yeah it’s pretty amazing that we actually have to explain this but libs are obsessed with the idea that if they can just find the inconsistency in a deplorable argument that they’ll admit defeat and the west wing shitlib utopia will bloom, despite fifty nine xillion consecutive counter examples.