Stones cheating scandal

Your boss: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the likelihood of observing a winrate at least as high as the defendant’s would be equivalent to winning fifteen Powerball jackpots in a row under the assumption he’s not a cheat.

Defense counsel: My client searched deep within himself, found God, and used the talents given to him by the Lord to read the souls of his opponents. Some people say he’s the best poker player that ever lived, but my client is humble and only reluctantly accepts that title.

Judge: Counsel, may I ask why your client is wearing a sequined jacket that reads The Greatest?

Defense counsel: Your honor, are you a fan of Jesus Christ?

Judge: Well, yes. Yes I am.

Defense counsel: Let’s pray then.

Judge: Let’s pray.

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live poker itself is one long slowroll

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The jury - ok we award $3 billion instead of $4 billion.

My boss’s clients: GREAT SUCCESS!!!

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Apparent this is real. I’m not sure jungleman would do this well at my buddies’ home game where top pair is the immortal nuts.

LOOOOL at folding the turn here. Pure soul-read. Amazing!

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You’d better believe I DO want to watch 6-hour streams. I still watch the Potripper vids once or twice a year. It’s all so incredible.

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Potripper MTT in case anybody forgot or has never seen it:

First hand, pwn with 26o, ez game.

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It works better if the AP GUI is fresh in your mind but lolobv it isn’t. I can’t find the UB one I made and this took 45 mins to find so it might be gone.

Are you a Sac valley local?

Not sure if this is actually possible, but can’t you encrypt the the RFID data? Basically just have the shuffler reprogram the RFID keys with a one-time pad every deal, then pass the key to the display logic. That doesn’t prevent insider hacks at either end, but would protect against getting data off the cards or from hacks anywhere else in the system.

Also, Nate on the Thinking Poker podcast frequently talks about how poker-boom era players don’t have the accumulated anti-cheating culture that poker players needed to have when poker had less legitimacy. There’s always an edge to cheating by having hand info, but if players also have the cheater’s hand info AND they pay attention, you can get smoking-gun evidence pretty easily. In theory, the fact that poker is legit now means that it should be possible to send cheaters to jail with that kind of evidence, especially if casinos have their feet held to the fire to cooperate iwth and push the authorities. I know virtually nothing about this case other than vague things that have filtered down to me and skimming the article in the OP, but the obvious shocking scandal is the Stones covering this up (or being too inept to notice, which is hard to believe) rather than enforcing the integrity of the game. At lower levels, you need the casino to do the right thing, but you also can’t rely on obvious cheating being streamed to a national audience, so you need the players (or the dealers/floors? not sure that’s realistic) paying attention too.

Yes, according to the 22 thread - the RFID code is encrypted, and every deck has a different signature. The decks come with a usb stick that’s loaded into the tracking software. So you’d need to keep track of each deck and slowly match each sig to a card while it was in play. Would take a while but if they keep the decks in play for a long time I guess it’s possible.

Also all this stuff about cameras in key fobs/phones needs a specially marked deck where the cards are marked along the edges - which is provided by the company that makes the key fob/phone. So for it to work in this scenario, you’d need to sneak a specially marked RFID deck into the rotation.

Slowrolling a chop is fine of course, doesn’t even count. Slowrolling set-over-set not so much. There was one session where I was a set-over-set victim 3 times, and the 3rd time was when I got slowrolled. He was lucky he didn’t do it to the wrong person. The consolation is slow-rollers always suck at poker.

Interesting, I thought dealers liked chops because they usually get double the tip.

Oh and now that everyone is paying attention to Postle, has anyone seen him playing anywhere/anytime there isn’t a live stream? The link in OP says he’s only ever seen playing during live streams, which alone is a hell of a smoking gun.

nah, socal, but I know Veronica and I’ve known a few players that played on the stream (not regulars)

And as for chops…you all must be super generous. sometimes I’ll get the extra dollar (if it’s a low stakes game) but higher stakes…nothing if heads up, maybe a buck if two people chopped a third or 4th person’s money. Tipping has gotten lower and lower over the years in general, but that’s a different thread.

Yeah I almost always see both people tip on chops, even at 5/T. I guess a lot of pros at 5/T don’t though. The only time I don’t is if it’s like MP limp, I check BB, checks down and we chop and already lost money. Some dealers also intentionally under rake small chopped pots, and I always make sure to tip them. A lot of people may not even notice, though.

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Yeah especially if he’s a pro. 99% of pros HATE playing on live streams and will only do it like once a year for fun or if the lineup is amazing. I think a lot of the pros who play on them regularly do so because they want to play in the big and soft games that some of the SoCal live streams pull together. But I’m sure those guys are also playing plenty off-stream.

I had never seen this before and I’m wondering how the hell people at his table didn’t catch on within the first dozen hands. I get that people can run good and everything but you’d think you’d catch on when someone was betting/raising every single hand.

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All he had to do is do it 1 out of every 5 hands, randomly. Play normally 80% of the time then use the thing the other hands. No one would ever know.

Yeah once they see the stream. How demoralizing to have a S/F vs. the nut flush and win the minimum.

Yep - just like we did when we found out the boss’ pin at the restaurant I worked at. Oh I got stiffed on a tip? Let’s just void that steak off the table.

Not proud - but we never abused to where they caught on. Every bartender on earth is probably skimming a little.

Makes you wonder how many players are cheating for little edges - their whole career. Bobby’s Room has to be a gigantic collusion fest.

I’ve been playing low stakes tourneys for 2 months and I’ve already seen a reasonable amount of shady stuff. Dude sat down at the table and asked me if the guy across was raising a lot (after he had raised him off a hand). I said I hadn’t seen the other guy getting too out of line - which is pretty much the generic answer I would always give.

He dropped a 1k chip in my stack and said thanks for the info. I acted like I didn’t see it. What I’m I supposed to do there - make a big scene? Felt like a trial balloon. I wouldn’t be surprised if I answered more receptively he’d approach me off to the side about more collusion. Which no way in hell just to be clear. A few orbits later - dude slow-played AA (in a perfectly reasonable spot to slowplay) - but got cracked on the river and had a meltdown.

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