It’s going to play out great. So great you can’t believe it. It’ll be perfect.
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@superuberbob the app CamScanner is much better than just standard Camera App to take “scans” of your book pages for your class. I think it’s free or else $0.99
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I was in Mexico all week last week (Monterrey, Queretaro, Mexico City, and even Celaya during their full scale cartel meltdown Tuesday) and as of that point Mexico was seemingly taking it more seriously than the US. Hand sanitizer everywhere, face masks on all the security workers at the Mexico City airport, my temp was taken entering the country, etc. They waited a few more days to cancel stuff (which makes sense given like 2% the caseload the US has confirmed) but I was favorably impressed.
The US didn’t start taking it seriously until this weekend, besides buying toilet paper.
Mexico does have a lot of disadvantages though. It’s a society with a lot more people in close proximity to each other, and tons of people grinding out a living in basic food handling jobs with minimal formal healthcare. They should 100% close the border right now.
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It will probably be pretty close. 1 million Americans dead from COVID seems possible whereas they say 40k die for every 1% increase in unemployment and that could hit 25+%. Not to mention the effects of depression.
My sister works in a hospital between Dayton and Cincinnati, Ohio. She just got done working for the night. She said it’s already getting ugly. They had several presumed cases tonight, including a 13 year old.
My other sister works at a hospital in Troy, Ohio. They have none of the drugs that are showing signs of helping treat. And they can’t get them. They are all backordered.
Right - so one way around that is let the youngs get back out there and stimulate the economy. But if you let everyone back out you wind up with a million people dying over the course of a year in giant death hotels or something.
Gotta say I dont mind the Czechia updates but I think I prefer the liveblog of the Youngstown strange wiper is fucking. 2020 is weird
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Some of you know my mothers situation. Nurse Practitioner at Menorah, came down with classic CV symptoms a couple days after the first JOCO patient was diagnosed, but the state refused to test her due to her having not “been in contact with someone infected or traveled internationally.”
She is still self-quarantining and, though feeling much better, has not fully recovered.
The night before she got sick, she stayed at my brothers house.
He, his fiancée, and both of their kids now have a 100+ Fever and a dry cough.
My brother refuses to go to the doctor, saying it’s just the flu and they’ll ride it out. He doesn’t make much money and is concerned about the costs associated with going in.
This is why our system is ****ing broken. This is why we won’t contain this thing until it runs its course. People fear our expensive as **** healthcare system more than they utilize it.
I’ve tried to get the kid to go in and get tested. He isn’t budging.
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.
From Chiefsplanet. We are so fucked. We’re never going to have any idea how many people caught this or even how many died from it - probably by design.
Also, Menorah has asked my mom to not “say anything about this, as they don’t want to scare off the public.”
So, ya know, **** Menorah.
Furthermore, his fiancée owns a hair salon in an assisted living community. It’s not my brother and his family I’m worried about. It’s our grandparents, the elderly she works with, etc.
They will not self quarantine unless someone tells them they have to. They will lose their house if they do that.
Old people stimulate the economy too. And “dying over the course of a year” is the right way, right? It needs to be drawn out so that hospitals can handle it. I don’t know what the answer is - I think doing things that can be done just as well remotely or nearly so, like school on the internet or wfh is a no brainer. Large events with crowds also. PSAs. Basically what is being done, but not just every random job or activity cancelled. Maybe that’s ok for a few weeks or a month, but deserted streets for months sounds very scary.
I don’t know what I’ll do if I get sick, but I’ll be quite reluctant to go to the hospital. 98% chance I recover without going. 99% chance I recover if I go, but I get a big bill?
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I think this. I’m hoping that once the initial wave of shutdowns peaks and the various systems start to see exactly what is hitting them and ways to cope, then the right balances might start to emerge. As you say I very much doubt that can be full shutdown for the duration. That said that obviously hopes that the systems in place don’t just buckle and break down. Really not sure what expectation we can ask have on that or timescales. Assume I’m ponied here but the UK was talking spring 2021 yesterday.
Yeah that’s the whole point. Our system is completely fucked. This guy’s brother is going to go out and infect other people, and his fiancee might cause a disaster in the nursing home - all because we refuse to test, and because our healthcare system is so utterly FUBAR it forces people into risky behavior.
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Letting a million people die of this (basically everyone will know someone who dies, some will know several), when only 50k die of the flu, is going to be a very hard pill to swallow.
It’s completely unrealistic to expect that to be a policy they go with especially when we know lockdown works and there is hope of a vaccine at some point.
Now in the US we may get their anyway because we’re a banana republic.
You mean the tension whores?
Don’t flag me bro, it’s a callback.
You think it’s 50k die if there’s a lockdown and 1M die if there isn’t? That’s possible I guess. Not that we can run this twice, but that doesn’t sound right to me.
(I think 50k is low and 1M is way high for top and bottom expectations - but they are talking a year for the vaccine? I think lockdown for a year will kill way more than a million people.)
And the vaccine might be cake, no?
Worth a shot.
No 50k die of the regular flu. So you’d be letting 20x that die in a year just to keep economic activity going (also assuming you can build like 100k more ICU beds with ventilators really quick). Like I said I don’t think anyone says “Yeah, ok that’s the plan.”
FYI I’m getting the 1M from 40-70% get it (penetration if we let it run it’s course) * 327M pop * .5% die.