SARS-CoV-2: Electric Superflu

Yeah well they have had a linear rate of case increase for some time now (100 cases/day for more than 2 weeks straight), the number of infected per capita is relatively low, and they’re doing a bunch of testing, so it seems very unlikely there are a lot of unknown cases out there.

The lag before death is something people don’t seem to be taking into account a lot. Take Germany as an example. They have 433 deaths on 57,695 cases, for a fatality rate of 0.75%. Great. Except that median time from onset of symptoms until death is 8 days. If we look say 5 days ago, Germany had only 29,100 cases, so the fatality rate from cases known at that time would be 1.5%. Germany is another country who have done a lot of testing.

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He is withholding resources from her state because he is a reactive level 0 monkey who wants to punish an enemy, not because he already somehow knows that 7 months from now Michigan will not be in play in the general election. I’m telling you, he does not think like that. You are ascribing to him a significant amount of rational, long-term thinking. Pigs don’t think like you or I.

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Escape from New York available on Amazon Prime. May be good choice for next viewing party.

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I still think the House should pass something just cutting checks to states to use to fight COVID-19, to cut Trump out of the loop and let them order their own supplies. Could even create a clearinghouse committee to coordinate w/ companies to distribute supplies for those funds. Dare Mitch to block it or Trump to veto. Would be horrible politically. Call it the Saving Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York, California, etc Act and then in each state when you run ads about how they blocked it you can just call it the “Saving Michigan from COVID-19 Act” or whatever.

You either save lives or make political hay, Trump/Mitch’s choice.

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Last I heard the people they tested had mostly self-selected for being symptomatic.

There are a few studies posted about in the last few days with random sampling that should give a better idea of the infection fatality rate than anything so far.

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Fuck off. I’ve been on board with more drastic measures than the general public favored for over a month.

oops, misplaced a decimal place somewhere.

Hey, I’ve been saying WAAF since January. Anyway, has anyone noticed that hand soap is now basically impossible to get? Sold out online and in all the supermarkets (at least when I try to order it as part of my instacart or shipt orders). So that’s fun.

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Reminds me, distilleries all over the country have been creating hand sanitizer, many given it away for free.

Has anyone here gotten any distillery hand sanitizer?

I think we will see some results from all the social distancing to slow down the spread of this a bit. So we might see a delay in really big number of deaths till June. Things might really start to get wild in about two weeks tho. This timeline sucks.

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Comparing yourself with the “general public”…? Great comparison. Well done.

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I go back and forth but currently think there will be an informal agreement with the media to downplay this in the name of national security or whatever. And without honest reporting most dipshit Americans in the suburbs simply aren’t going to give a shit.

Not sure why you’re calling me out saying I’ve been complacent about this. I’ve been concerned about this since January. The fuck are you talking about?

My water heater broke today and flooded my house. Perfect timing! The other downside was having to go to home depot for stuff to try and mitigate the damage in the middle of this shit. There was literally a line of cars waiting to get into the parking lot from a major road. Less than 5% of people in the store had masks/gloves or appeared to give a shit if they were within 6 inches of each other. And we have a shelter in place order with criminal and civil penalties.

People who don’t think USA is completely fucked are just wrong.

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Based on the thermometer map, most of the country is doing a good enough job to trend illness down in many cases >18%. A lot of the places we are hearing are bad for CV-19 see the illness trending down by less – more like 10-13%.

Hopefully the areas where illness is trending more significantly down will be hit less hard, or at least it will take more time.

One thing is for sure, many (most?) areas are doing enough to out a big dent in normally expected colds and flu.

Let’s see how this ages. Hopefully you’re right and can zing me.

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In a town my US relatives live near, the DIY places sound awful for responding to this. The cashiers wear paint masks…but no hand sanitizer near the pen you use for doing the credit/debit transaction. So every old fart DIYer going in there keeps away from each other, the cashier is covered, but then every single one of them uses the card pen thingy to sign their name and tap the keyboard. Great system for those rough n tough old guys who frequent those places.
I’m sure they’re not claiming they’re tough enough to not bother, or too tough for hand sanitizer… :roll_eyes:

If numerous ads aren’t run in Michigan in October over this then I’d support just folding up shop and declaring USA a military dictatorship.

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Anyone who thinks 0.6% is the ceiling is a stone cold moron. The best we can hope for is probably SK’s 1.6% death rate but we could very well be closer to Italy’s ~11% death rate seeing as how we’re just getting started and hospitals are already starting to get overwhelmed.

Ugh that sucks. My water heater did that on a regular day and it sucked. “Regular” problems just take on an entirely different meaning now. I’m sorry that happened to you.

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