Shouldn’t the other 47 states be under this advisory right now too?
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Was that the entire travel advisory or just a part of it? They’re just assuming everyone understands the logic behind it?
This tells us nothing about the 2020 election. Donald Trump is attacking Gov. Whitmer because she said “nasty” things about Donald Trump. End of story. He is pathologically, biologically incapable of thinking about other people, places, or things on any level other than the most superficial. And he certainly does not have the constitution to refrain from lashing out at one of his enemies because of some higher-minded whatever whatever about potential ramifications x months down the road.
He might try to cancel/cheat etc etc. the 2020 election once Brad Parscale or Stephen Miller or Montgomery Burns or whoever give him the playbook and assure him they’ll run it for him, but it’ll have nothing to do with Michigan or coronavirus.
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This is also my best guesstimate. I do not claim to be an expert. Deniers keep denying but numbers keep adding up and lots of places haven’t even really started.
The geographic distances and lockdowns and the fact that even deplorables and Keed types are finally waking up might mitigate this. But sure as fuck we need to remind them - absolutely forever- that it was despite them, not because of them, if this doesn’t become horrendous! Deplorables and Keeds would have allowed it to become far, far, far worse.
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I’m sure someone over there is…
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South Korea has 9,583 cases and 152 deaths, for a fatality rate of 1.6%. The rate was down around 0.6% for a while and has recently increased, probably because there’s a lag time before people die. It was never as low as 0.2%.
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I think there will be more than 1 million US dead from corona in April
edit: unless there’s some new treatment to reduce fatality rate and/or reduce treatment time
That’s all she wrote
I mean this may not matter. What’s the difference whether we’re talking about a total fatality rate of .2% of 40% of the population or of .8% of 10%?
You’re also completely ignoring the fact that South Korea has come nowhere near overwhelming their capacity, whereas we are almost certainly going to do it in, at best, a handful of major US cities. By all accounts, when the people who need ventilators do not get them, they die.
What difference does it make? The only flexibility in the response in reality is whether or not the governor of a given state kisses the ring…
Well that sucks. And they have extensive enough testing that they are catching all the asymptomatic cases and have close to a real number of infected, correct?
I mean from the stand point of states being able to allocate extra resources to other states after they have passed their peak.
Still a lot to be determined obviously but I am at least hopeful on that front. I think the federal government will continue to be worthless to anyone outside of Florida.
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He’s not just attacking her, that’s meaningless, he’s also withholding resources from her state… and does not fear the electoral consequences.
Is this really how it works, re: dosing the amount of the virus you get?
The fact that most people seem to think life is going to go back to normal in a couple of months is just the worst. “Hey we might have the football season in the summer to help keep it players safe” NO, students probably won’t return to campus for the fall semester, why would there be a football season?
Just the way everyone, including lots of people in this thread, think it’ll just turn around any day now. “Oh the social distancing will stop the spread” maybe if everyone took it seriously, but tons of people aren’t
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can you show your math here?
Correct and also administering some treatment to asymptomatic cases to reduce severity. At least to some of them…
A huge LOL fuck off to all the “.6 percent is the ceiling” people. If it’s 1.2% there, we’re looking at 4% at least, and globally we’re looking at probably 3-4% at best.
… At least until we get an actual treatment.
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My neighbor works with him. Hope I don’t get pozzed.
Yup it’s exactly this. I think most but not all here know we are fucked. The general public is like 90% or more completely oblivious to what is coming. This is going to be severe pain worldwide. None of us know what is about to happen. When people realize that I think the results are going to be catastrophic. It’s one reason I actually think downplaying it makes some sense.
It is not a proven but just highly speculated that the severity and size of the viral load that infects you impacts the extent to which you get sick.
I would not bet my life on it. The theory though follows healthcare providers who are getting exposed to severe peak viral loads and are tending to be getting much sicker.
I have not seen any scientific study or analysis of this, so I was more poking fun at extreme packaging and such (but not in a stop doing it sort of way, I wouldn’t want to discourage anyone from any precautions right now).
If we think about the asymptomatic spread too though, it does lend more credence to the theory. It also supports the idea of social distancing making a big difference.
As Danspartan educated me and the thread though, individual factors likely have a much bigger impact on severity.