I really believe we will be living history in the next few weeks. Once we have 5-10 cities that are basically doing an italy in the next week what happens next will be truly horrifying but I don’t see any way we avoid that at this point. It was avoidable. Now it’s not and it fucking sucks
Also there were more cel subscriptions in China than people.
I thought of alzheimers patients when I read the headline. Denying care to people with Down’s syndrome or other disabilities would be horrific. That said, the article didn’t quote either plan and made general statements about them that didn’t clarify anything. Two thumbs down for that. Seems like lazy click bait bullshit to me.
Anyone heard from Dr. Drew lately? Is that fuck still trying to say it’s all overblown?
He should be drafted to the front lines with one mask to reuse for a whole week.
Not to get too cute because I know what you mean, plus No Politics In The Champagne Room, but, democracy is literally why we have all this horrible shit.
I mean, if the idea of “Hey, how about we regularly let every random idiot vote on whether we die in a pandemic” didn’t already exist, no rational person would dream it up.
He was on some random Samsung TV channel I browsed a few days ago. I was mildly shocked by his views. He was a lot more reasonable when he was dispensing sex advice in the 90s.
Fuck you’re so fucking stupid.
That dumb motherfucker really thought that wouldn’t make him look worse. Just earnest as fuck.
I mean, the only reason the Inso0s don’t do more damage is that they’re more stupid than evil thus never exercise any power.
Wait,
thus never exercise any power.
Except for voting.
Take another victory lap, democracy!
Subway seems like a bad idea for the same reason to me. Flat cold, counters where breath can settle and build up throughout the day.
Right, this is something I think most Americans are way behind the curve on. People get the whole don’t touch your face thing, they get the cough/sneeze thing, some/many get the breathing in an enclosed space thing… But people IME don’t realize that anything that’s airborne is going to land on something at some point, and stay there waiting to hitch a ride on whatever touches it.
This is why we saw several countries in Asia spraying disinfectant on streets every night. They understood that COVID-19 could live on pavement/sidewalks, hop onto the sole of a shoe, and hitch a ride into a nice cozy apartment to infect everyone.
I want to punch every Boomer I see that gives even a whiff of attitude this is all overblown and unnecessary. Justified?
Yes, just gotta work on your jab and move technique to minimize time inside a six-foot radius!
Could we get maybe a follow up study with clothes
China seems to think 2-3 hours based on guidelines or general practice there. I’m just doing a min of 24 hours and then straight into the washing machine for anything that I’ve worn outside or brushed up against possibly exposed items with.
hair
You should shower after going outside anyway, so I think this one isn’t that critical.
wood
I would love to know this one for floors.
carpet
Probably similar to clothes, right?
granite counter tops
I’m assuming the worst and wiping my counter tops down (don’t think they’re granite, don’t really know) any time anything from the outside world touches them.
hot and cold food
Seems like it’s going to survive on cold food for at least as long as it would take to eat it. I don’t trust the stuff about it not being a problem if you eat it, seems silly to me. All the heat stuff is based on other coronaviruses, and the scary thing to me is that this one still seems to be spreading in hot climates pretty effectively - so there’s a chance that the whole microwave the delivery food thing is useless.
Then again, you can microwave it way past 82* or whatever they say other coronaviruses die at.
Maybe hope - probably take forever and need scarce resources though.
People with antibodies may become really valuable soon.
Definitely seems like limited resources, unless we can clone/replicate the antibodies? Scientists/biologists/smart medical people?
Given the limited resources, this is going to end up creating some kind of weird free market hellscape, isn’t it? Poor people catching it on purpose to try to survive and sell their blood plasma for six figures to billionaires who want to stockpile it just in case while other poor people die with no access to the treatment? USA#JKWAAF
So no rent relief for tenants, still expecting them to commit to another year or GTFO in the middle of a pandemic, and limiting the number of times you’ll show the apartment to strangers, but only if the tenant has both the technology and the inclination to market the apartment for you digitally.
You guys are fucking saints, really.
I actually like having Inso here because it just shows how fundamentally broken conservative lizard brains are. Want to know why Trump won? Because 60 million people could read Inso’s posts and think “This guy makes good points.”
my pony agrees with all of this
Sorry, not sorry. I love Vegas. Amazing food, entertainment, gambling and debauchery.
Vegas rules.
I’ve never been lolme
There’s been a steady rise in pierce, Snohomish, and king counties, but now the rural counties are seeing significant increases in covid cases. Those county hospitals are fucked btw. They are not prepared. They don’t deal with critically ill patients often and most of them have very few ventilators.
My hospital uses on average a half a million masks a year. In the first two weeks of the outbreak we used 250k. Hospital supply companies are leaned out to only produce expected demand with very little capability to increase production quickly.
Has there been any chatter about how it’s spreading rurally? Most of what we know so far indicates that it should spread much more easily in urban areas, and struggle to spread in rural areas. Obviously we won’t have scientific answers, just wondering if there’s any talk in the medical community in Washington anecdotally about any contact tracing or speculation.
Right
As stated before, I 100% support being as cautious as possible, especially because most precautions are not remotely a hindrance one realizes after starting them.
That said, for everyone’s peace of mind, what you wrote is correct but not totally applicable in practice. Viruses start to immediately and parabolically degrade outside a host thus lose infectiousness, as opposed to an alive/dead infectious/not binary fashion.
I have a pound of expired active dry yeast still vacuum sealed. Expiration date: June 2019. Accepting bids.
Hilariously, my dumb ass threw away a jar of activated dry yeast like a week ago without thinking about it. In a story that will likely be appreciated here, I had bought it as a possible way of minimizing my drunkenness during a poker game with required hourly liquor consumption. The CEO or president or something of Sam Adams swore by it, but ultimately I settled on charcoal pills. The yeast was still in my fridge right around when this started and I was like, “Ehh, the charcoal worked, no way I’m EVER using this!”
I took two days, which are actually years in the Coronaverse, off can someone give me cliffs on what’s going on? How brutal was the Trump presser?
Imagine the worst Trump presser you’ve ever seen. Imagine what it would take to raise the bar so far that it somehow managed to surprise you. Then imagine that presser, and what it would take to raise the bar yet again so far that it surprised you, somehow, some way.
That’s what you missed in the last few pressers.
But the potential to be nagging someone over this if their world is imploding outweighs that. I’m just going to let it go, I think.
It’s possible that it was an honest mistake from someone fulfilling a ton of orders at once, and that they’d be happy to make it right. It’s at least worth one call/email IMO.
But one last thing, one hypothesis I’ve heard for why kids aren’t getting the COVID too bad is that they are constantly getting colds and thus are more likely to have recently gotten and recovered from a coronavirus.
I’m no medical expert either, but I don’t think this hypothesis is a very good one. Children are ~immune to this. The number of serious cases and deaths is so incredibly low, it just seems there would be way more kids who hadn’t recently dealt with a regular coronavirus than we’re seeing have problems with this one. I’m guessing just stronger/more active immune systems.
Surely a big part of the reason kids are constantly getting colds is that they haven’t yet developed antibodies against them.
I assumed it was cause they lick things, put their hands in their mouth constantly, and play in large groups at school and such.
Im not well versed in this, but I would expect antibody tests to be extremely accurate. They’re basically designed by nature to lock on to very specific targets.
Would a test simple be a positive/negative binary test or would there be a quantitative analysis too? Cause it seems likely that some people produce way more antibodies than others too this, and that’s what makes a difference in mild vs severe cases. (Or viral load, or a combination of the two.)
those unlikely to own cell phones.
Imagine the worst Trump presser you’ve ever seen. Imagine what it would take to raise the bar so far that it somehow managed to surprise you.
I am so jaded that the bar for this might be Budd Dwyer. I’m sure there are people who would claim that isn’t a bad outcome.
“Hospital doesn’t like taking care of sick people, fires employees instead.”
NYC case data from this afternoon, with my calculation of cases per capita. Queens is slammed.
I only lived in NYC for a few years, so you might know this better than me if you currently live there, but I’m guessing Queens per capita has the most emergency workers. It also makes sense that Manhattan’s rate is the lowest as it would have the lowest usage of public transit (and people there could much more easily avoid it) and also the highest rate of jobs that can easily work from home.
Staten probably has more people who drive and lower public transit usage, but also a higher rate of police/fire/nurses/etc.
And now I’m looking at the map you posted…
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A little breakdown from what I know from my time in NYC… Up top, 102-107 is the Bronx, poorer community, more public transit usage. 406, 408, 409 are way out in Queens near JFK airport. 402 should be LaGuardia. 410 is the Rockaways. Lots of cops and firefighters live out there, I assume lots of nurses too. They make up the middle class neighborhoods, lots of poor areas and projects there too. Brooklyn I don’t know quite as well, but 202 includes the super expensive parts of Brooklyn. 201 and 211 are more industrial, and 203, 207, 206 are poorer neighborhoods, although I’m pretty sure there are some middle class pockets in there. The stuff that’s not as dark down in the southeast end of Brooklyn likely more retirees and more contained communities with less commuting into Manhattan.
So basically: airports, poor neighborhoods that probably can’t afford time off work, neighborhoods with lots of public transit riders are getting hit hard.
Kinda surprised my old neighborhood (Astoria - it’s in 401) is doing better than most. Lots of young people who would ride the subway into Manhattan for work live there, but they may skew more towards being able to work from home.