I’d be interested to see though what the next wave looks like if say 10% or 20% of the population has herd immunity. How much does the spread slow down? @Trolly?
Maybe you can skate by on 10-20% herd immunity (not saying Lombardy is there) + less than full lock down social distancing measures. Just asking, no idea.
And Jewish people.
And the reasons for cops is so the system can breakdown and they can have their race war…boogaloo.
Let’s see
at 200 lbs per thats 10 senators
But at 250 ea thats only 8.
Maths.
It would really improve things if they get mass antibody tests out to see who has immunity and can take on the riskier assignments, especially healthcare workers.
I loled at the implication that white supremacists and cops are two distinct groups.
I think one constant in this is people who don’t listen to authority are getting fucked. Italians, Hasidic Jews (in that one group), New Yorkers, Spanish. Fuck off we’re doing what we want. My general perception is that Germans follow the rules and I know East Asians at least do.
Like sort by collectivism.
My buddy lived in Japan before the Nagano olympics. Apparently spitting on the subway platform was a common thing people had done for years, but the govt decided it was unpleasant for the Olympics. So they put up signs to tell people to stop spitting. He was blown away by how quickly it worked. He said within days everyone stopped. And they didn’t start up again after the Olympics.
With American’s something like say seatbelt wearing, took at least 5 years of hardcore nudging and actual tickets - from the time we got serious about pushing it. Not smoking in bars took a few years in CA.
Another thing that interests me is that throughout late 2019 and early 2020, people here were talking about how bad the flu epidemic was this season.
From the article:
I mean were all of those the flu? I doubt that blood tests are done to confirm whether or not a person has the flu. Doctors likely look at symptoms, prescribe medication to combat the symptoms and send them on their way.
I really do wonder if coronavirus has been here since winter 2019 and it has been misdiagnosed as the flu up until recently.
Elective surgeries you might as well have later. This is not true for abortions.
Why has Italy been so badly affected?
You’ve probably heard by now that Italy has been hit hard by the virus.
It’s now at the epicentre of the outbreak, and the country’s president has urged other countries to learn from its struggle to slow the spread of Covid-19.
The number of recorded deaths there recently overtook those in China, where the virus originated last year. Italy reported 651 coronavirus deaths on Sunday and saw its toll for the past month reach 5,476, the highest in the world.
So why has Italy been so badly affected? A number of possible reasons have been mooted.
Some studies point to the large number of elderly people in the worst affected regions, such as Lombardy in the north. Italy also has the oldest population in the world after Japan with some 23% of people there over the age of 65.
This matters because the virus is especially dangerous for older people.
The vast majority of Italy’s fatal cases involved elderly people with at least one pre-existing condition, officials say. The average age of the first 3,200 people who died was 78.5.
Experts also say a large proportion of 18-34s live at home with these older people, which increases the risk of the virus spreading.
Another factor that may help explain Italy’s crisis is the length of time the virus has been active.
Some health officials believe it arrived in Italy long before the first case was officially confirmed in late February. It likely spread undetected through northern Italy, possibly for several weeks.
That’s what this guy who helped advise on Contagion (which is the highest honor an expert can have in USA#1 - oh yeah he eradicated smallpox or something yawn) thinks could happen:
And three, maybe most important, we begin to see large numbers of people—in particular nurses, home health care providers, doctors, policemen, firemen, and teachers who have had the disease—are immune, and we have tested them to know that they are not infectious any longer. And we have a system that identifies them, either a concert wristband or a card with their photograph and some kind of a stamp on it. Then we can be comfortable sending our children back to school, because we know the teacher is not infectious.
And instead of saying “No, you can’t visit anybody in nursing home,” we have a group of people who are certified that they work with elderly and vulnerable people, and nurses who can go back into the hospitals and dentists who can open your mouth and look in your mouth and not be giving you the virus. When those three things happen, that’s when normalcy will return.
Wristbands though. Q will love that. I sure hope yootoob is still letting them run fucking wild. Great job guys!
I thought this was pretty good.
After a person recovers from the virus, how long are they still contagious?
That’s a very important question. We’re not sure; one individual in China was shown to have persistent virus shedding for over a month. But typically, we’re looking at a three-week period from onset of symptoms.
Once you become infected with the virus, can you get it again?
There are a few anecdotes from China about re-infection but, if you look at those reports carefully, they’re not well-documented. It could be that folks just continued to shed virus from the initial infection. Only one study was formally done and it is not a human study. It’s a macaque study. They infected macaques with this virus, then waited until the monkeys recovered and tried to re-infect them. They could not. This just came out in the past few days. That bodes well for human immunity.
We have now looked at a lot of serum from convalescent individuals and those serum samples have antibodies against the so-called spike protein of the virus. That’s the protein that sits on the surface of the virus particle. By tightly binding, the antibody could neutralize the virus. Once an infected person develops antibodies, there should be protective immunity for quite some time. That’s why we need to buy time for immunity to develop in the population.
This is going to take some time. But I’m very confident that the science will rise to the task and provide a solution. But it’s not going to be a few months as our president suggests. It’s going to be much longer than that. I would say 18 months, or 24 months. I think we are all facing tough challenges ahead.
Before coronavirus became the new thing, people were discussing how bad flu the season was in 2019/20.
I wonder if it was here much earlier throughout Europe but misdiagnosed as the flu.
Maybe if some less virulent strain was circulating and then it mutated. But there’s no way this exact thing was out there infecting random people but not overwhelming hospitals. It’s just too contagious.
However I believe(?) that genetic testing nails it down to starting in Wuhan and the Hunaan Fish Market was ground zero. So it seems weird for something to get global and then decide to mutate in an area where there are wet markets (not sure if the fish market has bushmeat - but we know China has them) and people eating bats at least in the same country.
signing that one of with
We are all human, and we all make mistakes. Even friends. Especially friends. I forgive you.
What an arse
First article for that paper was titled " Oh Yes, I Am a Trump Supporter" and has had other whines such as Intersectionally Oppressed: My First Semester at Penn - “You see, I am a libertarian, blue-collar, Italian-American. I am intersectionally oppressed.”
Seems unlikely, unless there was a spike in critical care cases and deaths that people totally ignored.
Either Biden is being smart and knowing that any exposure right now is bad. Or he’s a fucking blithering idiot.
Either way I trust he’ll do something like this on his first day in office:
I would begin the press conference by saying “Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to Ron Klain—he was the Ebola czar [under President Barack Obama], and now I’ve called him back and made him Covid czar. Everything will be centralized under one person who has the respect of both the public health community and the political community.” We’re a divided country right now. Right now, Tony Fauci [head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases] is the closest that we come to that.
Glitch in the Matrix - should have been Penn St. Simulation getting overloaded.
Uh I’ll take the Biden is half dead on a ventilator over this. The excuses make literally zero sense and I’m guessing they rightfully think stories of him gasping for air on his death bed wouldnt play well electorally in USA #1. Especially not considering how demented he was before.
What exactly is the procedure in a case where a candidate, especially the leading candidate is incapacitated? I would assume if he had named a running mate, then maybe that person would get his delegates, but really have no clue.