SARS-CoV-2: Electric Superflu

I kinda think the opposite. Per-capita rates in some of the smaller counties are really alarming, and their health systems are far less equipped to deal with the surge.

I have no idea why Baker keeps dragging his feet on this. Everybody is already expecting it.

So Italy is reporting a mortality rate of 9 percent?!?

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of those they have resources / time to test , it would appear so

those numbers are correct as of 30 minutes ago

this is what happens where countries are late to prepare, have a population where youngs refuse to social distance and where health services are overrun as a consequence.

Italy won’t be the only example of above

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I think some really interesting household dynamics are going to come out of this.

There was a show on PBS called Frontier house where families had to live like pioneer families did. In the end the kids all loved it, the men generally loved it because they were out chopping wood and hunting and providing for their family, but the wives hated it because it was just housework all day long.

The saddest moment at the end was one of the kids in the rich family saying basically “Now that we’re back in this giant house - we hardly see each other anymore I miss when we were all in one room.”

I have a feeling a lot of families are going to come out of this much more bonded with their kids and better able to handle time together - once they get over the initial adjustment period.

I could see lots of other weird revelations and unforeseen outcomes.

I think France is Italy style fucked. The numbers seem to be heading there anyway, but here’s the French health minister today. First up confirming that it’s, in part, surgical masks they lack in hospitals and discouraging again their use by anyone else:

France is now able to manufacture 6 million additional masks per week, half of the FFP2. From April, it will be 8 million per week.

New distribution chains are being put in place. Setting up a suitable distribution chain has been complex, but it is now working and will quickly supply hospitals, all healthcare professionals and patients for whom the use of the mask is recommended.

Masks limit our transmission of the virus, but certainly not your exposure. Masks protect some, but only barrier gestures protect us all. The vast majority of transmissions are not stopped by masks, they are stopped by distance taking, by barrier gestures. A person who walks on the street to do his shopping does not need to wear a mask, the virus is transmitted by hands.

And confirming what we already know, they are only testing people they think have it and are at real risk from it, with no plans to change until they lift confinement.

Today, we do not screen automatically. So far, we have chosen to make rational use of tests, because tests are not used to measure but to contain the epidemic. We are aligned with the recommendations of international practices. The people targeted are, as with our European neighbors, the people most at risk.

France must now test and must develop its screening strategy. The challenge is to be able to multiply the tests when lifting the containment, we must be able to check whether the people for whom we have a doubt present the disease or not.

It is not on the basis of mass screening that we will end the epidemic, but to increase our surveillance once the containment is lifted.

Guess I’m staying in my flat with fingers crossed for quite some time.

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Engalnd (not UK) now at 47 deaths less than US - strange given the populations

NHS confirms 53 more deaths in England

Another 53 people with coronavirus have died in England, bringing the total of deaths in the country to 220.

The patients who died in England were aged between 41 and 94 years old and all had underlying health conditions.

Earlier, two more deaths were recorded in Wales, bringing its total to five, and another death in Scotland, taking the number to seven

Northern Ireland has recorded one death.

Someone in my housing complex tested positive.

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French health minister completely contradicts the article posted here yesterday about takeout food. Nobody has a fucking clue and it’s impossible to get information we can trust. What a shit show.

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Jesus - that usually means it’s been running wild for weeks.

This is about 5 blocks from me. There’s an urgent care clinic next door. They just built both. The facility looks super fancy so you’d think they have relatively good protocols.

US vice-president to be tested

US Vice-President Mike Pence, who heads the White House coronavirus taskforce, says he and his wife will take coronavirus tests later on Saturday after it was discovered that a member of this team tested positive.

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The death totals for England are almost exactly matching those of Italy day by day except England is 14 days behind.
England at 220 whereas Italy was at 233.

Agreed.

That’s why it’s strange we have posters ITT thinking their country will escape this.

France, Germany, Spain and soon the UK will be on it’s knees. US might be a day or 2 behind if real numbers released but ‘ya’, WAAF (I have COPD and already know the ventilator won’t be available for me! and rightly so)

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It doesn’t mean 9% of everyone who catches it is dying. It means 9% of an increasingly sick pool of people who show up at the hospital is dying.

It’s impossible to tease out how much of this is because their hospitals are overloaded - leading to people dying who otherwise might live vs. the fact that they’re only testing (or presuming positive) people who show up at the hospital in very very bad shape.

Let’s get a 12 monkeys watch party

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it’s just so ridiculous to me that the dems aren’t killing the messaging on this. I had a conservative leaning friend over describing how their management laid everyone off. Just telling them that everything was fine and they were going to keep working one minute, then telling everyone they don’t have a job anymore the next. Explaining how everyone was pleading with management, saying we know you’re laying us off, can you just tell us so we can plan ahead?

Then you have wealthy and famous people getting tests like candy, while people dying with symptoms can’t even confirm it to let people they’ve been around know. Can we get some leadership from anywhere?

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I was wondering about that. My dad pointed out that the quote below sounds like the exact opposite of what we keep being told.

The German Federal Institute for Risk Assesment (BfR) reports that it is also possible—but unlikely—that the virus could be spread through “smear” infection. In these cases, a healthy person would touch a contaminated surface with their hands—say, a can of soup, a touchscreen ATM, or a subway turnstile—then transfer the virus to their eyes or nose. There have been no known cases of this method of transfer, and it is thought to be far less likely than droplet infection. Washing your hands before touching your face further reduces this likelihood, as coronavirus cannot be absorbed through your skin.

Does anyone have an idea how this reconciles with what we keep being told about hand to face transmission?

There’s not a single country so far that hasn’t had their hospitals overloaded

Stephen Miller for new VP?

Mike Pence might take some annual leave soon but no way is this administration ever admitting the Czar got the virus (IMO)

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Yes those bros included.