Questions about 6ix's ban

[microbet]

If he posts a lot in a thread about him it isn’t spam or a nuisance.

[MimosaDef]

@microbet

If he posts a lot in a thread about him it isn’t spam or a nuisance.

Yes, he should start an AMA thread and go nuts. I support this.

[6ix]

@MrWookie

@6ix

What is this line and how did that go over it?

You know, or at least should know, that I think precisely delineating such a line is at best a fool’s errand but is more likely a counterproductive blueprint for those who wish to abuse to color just inside such a line so as to claim that their abuse isn’t.

That’s fine. I mean, it’s obviously ridiculous for a number of reasons and we both know it, but it’s also fine, because that wasn’t really the spirit of the question.

I asked you how it was over the line. I can tell you that elephants are “big” because they’re the largest land-dwelling mammal, and can tell you their average weight and dimensions, without divulging where my cutoff line for “big” precisely is.

None of these were complicated or trick questions. I changed Goebs80’s name to “Goebbels80”. The question was simply, why did this receive a week-long (edit: six days) ban?

@MrWookie

@6ix

And this is the most interesting, why did you feel the need to delete the entire long ass post and not just the offending word? Especially because the poster in question quoted the word themselves in a reply:

It’s, not interesting? It’s a combination of laziness and humility. It’s not my business to edit bad posts into something acceptable, and I don’t think anyone could reasonably be expected to do so without being more infuriating than just deleting an offending post. It’s innately prone to accusations of bias and the original posters saying that the mods made them say something they did not intend to say. It’s not my job to fix your posts, and I don’t think anyone could do so in a manner you would accept consistently.

I didn’t ask if you found it interesting, I asked something else. It wasn’t a bad post, and I wasn’t talking about some nebulous and abstract platonic ideal of a post-that-needs-editing. I asked you specifically about that specific post.

There was one word in the post, and it’s been demonstrated that it did not even need to be censored. Again, “Goebbels80”, one word among hundreds not pertaining to that word. So, why not change that one word, or, better yet, leave the post up and have it follow the established flagged post protocol? The latter would obviously be the easiest from a work perspective, right?

@MrWookie

@6ix

If I reply to people in the thread, will the thread be throttled or locked and will I be banned again? If so, why, and how does that relate to the larger issues?

Sure, probably. Anyone who thinks of themselves so highly that they deserve to take over a whole thread to respond to everyone in their own way is likely to be a nuisance or a spammer. But, as usual, it’s a judgment call.

This thread was made to ask two straightforward questions. When you neglected to answer them, what transpired was exactly what you’re describing here, a Hostile Thread Takeover by questionable actors. Which, fine, it’s welcomed and I think people should have a right to share their thoughts.

So, gibberish aside, we’re actually getting somewhere. For example, during the hostile takeover, Clovis lied about a PM exchange with me, which a number of people repeated as truth. AOFrantic also displayed his complicated relationship with objective reality. And that’s just two things in the cornucopia.

It seems like you’re actually saying that I don’t have a right to also type words into the rectangle and share my thoughts, as replies to all this. Which, also fine, tell me there’s a clear double standard based on your arbitary whims and let me make my choice. That’s the easiest and most respectful way to proceed, right?

[6ix]

To make sure this isn’t overlooked, because it’s by far the weirdest thing in this whole entire affair:

@MrWookie

@6ix

Assuming there actually is a line and that went over it, why was the ban excessively long?

Seems like it was mercifully short compared to your previous ban.

This ban was six days and the one before was one day. There were no bans before that. It seems like you’re confused about the basic plot points. Do you actually have me confused with a different poster?

That actually would explain a whole lot.

[kerowo]

Without reading the posts you can’t be certain of this. On 22 Wil used to ruin threads by obsessively responding to every post that mentioned him regardless of what the mention was.

[anon10396289]

@6ix

This ban was six days and the one before was one day. There were no bans before that. It seems like you’re confused about the basic plot points. Do you actually have me confused with a different poster?

That actually would explain a whole lot.

In wookie’s defense I have a hard time keeping all the recent bannings straight too.

[MrWookie]

@6ix

I changed Goebs80’s name to “Goebbels80”. The question was simply, why did this receive a week-long (edit: six days) ban?

Because it was an obvious personal attack.

@6ix

This ban was six days and the one before was one day. There were no bans before that.

Looks like this was my mistake. My recollection at the time was that you’d eaten a ban for about as much or more recently. That doesn’t line up with the log, so it should have been shorter.

[Jalfrezi]

But it’s been well worth it because of all the happy posters now.

[NotBruceZ]

That excess time should be applied to 6ix’s next ban.

[anon10387340]

@6ix

Clovis lied about a PM exchange with me

I would like to hear more about this. @clovis8 told the forum that you “literally” said something in PM which you’ve told me that you not only didn’t literally say, but that you also did not imply in any way in the PM. Seems pretty bad if true, especially since it was subsequently repeated as truth by other users.

[MimosaDef]

[clovis8]

Please don’t @ me in this bullshit anymore. I am no longer engaging in this pointless, endless, and self-destructive nonsense.

Leave me out of it. The entire ATF forum should be closed for good.

For the record, I have no idea what this is about, nor do I frankly care at all.

[anon10387340]

It’s a little late to leave you out of it if you lied (or unintentionally) misrepresented a PM while shitting all over someone before you decided you didn’t care.

[anon10396289]

Jbro, the time for discussion has passed

[anon10387340]

Doesn’t care, but has more posts than any moderator in the thread:

[MimosaDef]

lol dudes are salivating in here

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@MrWookie

Looks like this was my mistake. My recollection at the time was that you’d eaten a ban for about as much or more recently. That doesn’t line up with the log, so it should have been shorter.

Everyone makes mistakes, but I did ask why the ban was so long 7 days ago.

[microbet]

I missed this detail that 6ix pointed out earlier, but Goebs’ nickname is literally based on Goebbels. It was a joke to be sure, but Goebs is a shortening of Goebbels. It’s derived from it. That’s how he chose the screen name. Seems much less of a bannable offense in that context.

[All-InFlynn]

Am I alone in having always sort of thought that? I’ve always pronounced his nick “Göbs” rather than rhyming with robes or “Go bee ess” - have other people not been?

[Jalfrezi]

Disappointing the ban wasn’t described as Naked Naziing.