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https://twitter.com/WriterJen/status/1580922477727076355?s=20&t=cnSlVtR4p_LafIpJfJxhaw

I went back and checked. Folds to her on the button and she mucks 22.

Like I don’t really care about her J4o call preflop. I agree it’s not a huge mistake. A solver may even say call. It’s J8o+ in a normal BB vs SB open spot, so the addition of dead money probably makes it J7o is my guess, maybe J6o.

My point is the turn all-in call. The Venn diagram of players who fold 22 unopened on the button, and call 2.3x pot bet/3b jams for $109K more with Jc4h on TT93cchh is not overlapping IMO.

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dude, she is terrible, like, could barely tell you what hand beats what, I don’t know why you operate on the assumption she knows at all what she’s doing

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One thing that’s pretty funny that I’ve actually seen before in werewolf and in some real life situations is that she is inconsistent but she is remarkably consistently inconsistent, if that makes sense, in a way that leads me to believe she’s just a liar or has very strong feelings in the moment that shape her perception of reality and those feelings can change moment to moment. I don’t think her story inconsistencies are a very strong indicator of cheating anymore but I do wonder certain things why they keep changing, like the detective story was clearly bullshit from the beginning.

she reminds me a LOT of a particular 2p2 poster i wont name because it feels mean, but she had very similar ways of relaying stories and her reality, plus some general delusion about poker abilities - if you were HF poster you probably know who I’m talking about

If you are talking about her logic and what a solver would do on the same post you have lost the plot man.

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You aren’t watching then. She plays reasonably well otherwise. Like I wouldn’t be disappointed to see her at my (non RFID) table in terms of game selection, but I wouldn’t expect her to punt stacks.

I haven’t really been keeping up but I watched one interview highlights video and I still don’t think she understands what the problem with the hand actually is. It’s like Trump genuinely thinks he did the perfect phone call and everyone outlining his many obvious crimes are just haters and losers. She thinks she’s getting flack for owning Garrett from his fans because she only thinks in terms of clout and fame. I literally don’t think she could coherently outline the case against her even though she’s talked about it for hours on end.

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If you’re pretending my post was about solvers instead of what my point was, perhaps this part of my post will help you.

If the population is made up of people having played poker for less than 6 months the two circles overlap more than 50%.

You keep applying advanced poker logic to her thinking when she is completely new.

There is a reasonable narrative that she was trying to target specifically Garrett, so folding 22 preflop might not be that big of a deal if Garrett had already folded in the hand. If every potentially weird hand was played against Garrett, that might be evidence that she was playing weird only against him and playing her regular game against everyone else. If she were cheating, you would expect her to make unusual plays against multiple players.

Her Hendon Mob goes back a year, she claims she got into it in 2020 when the pandemic hit, so if she’s telling the truth it’s 2+ years.

Lol dude cmon it’s not advanced logic that you open 22 on the button and fold J4o to a bet/3bet jam on TT93cchh.

Garrett folded 33 in the HJ preflop in an unraised pot. Seems sus

It’s at 2:26. IDK how to timestamp

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Like 6-8 minutes after being (almost certainly) cheated, and then he laughs and gets up from the table. He didn’t open it because he suspects cheating. Also the HJ != the button, but obviously he’s normally opening that hand.

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Getting “cheated” didn’t stop him from opening with KJo in the cutoff 2 minutes earlier. makes you think

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Not if you understand poker/ranges/the situation. A cheater wins vs 33 8.5 out of 9.5 times, and never pays off the other 1. He also was clearly going through the situation in his head that entire time, and may not have arrived at an answer when he played the KJ.

Do you have a timestamp for the 22 hand?

~1h10m10s

How does the 22 hand fit with the cheating narrative? Shouldn’t she play that hand if she is getting info on other players hands?

What’s the Venn diagram of people who fold 22 OTB in an unopened pot and people who cheat?

Depends on the cheating method, how/when info is being relayed, and whether the cheating is targeting the entire table or one player.