Hot and Correct Take:
Prestige TV being a longer format has made it so that lots of “good” movies seem cartoonish in how they develop characters. Lots of LOUD NOISES and outrageous gestures needed to quickly establish who the characters are and what they’re about in a small 2 hour window.
I watched A Star is Born last week and when Lady Gaga randomly gets in a bar fight I was just like man wtf is this
Good Will Hunting and Forrest Gump are hardly the best examples of movies from that era. From 1997 (GWH year) and better than GWH (which I think was OK):
LA Confidential
Donnie Brasco
The Boxer
Boogie Nights
Jackie Brown
The Sweet Hereafter
Grosse Pointe Blank
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control
Men in Black
Conspiracy Theory
Cop Land
Deconstructing Harry
This is blistering. There are tons of great movies prior to 2005. There are also tons of great TV shows prior to 2005. Some of them are very much of their time, but they are enjoyable all the way down which usually can’t be said for almost any show today. The argument most people who feel like this make about TV is that ‘real’ TV didn’t start until the 90s, when that’s really when a lot of it broke.
There was a show in the early-mid 1980s called Matt Houston. It was one of at least a dozen PI shows on at the time (a mostly dead genre today, with Bosch being the closest in tone to that genre). This show set itself apart with a number of things. I remembered watching it as a kid and loving it. It came on in a binge on Decades a few weeks ago, and I had it on all weekend while doing other things when we finished watching our other stuff. It has a lot of cheese, but it’s a really fun show. It did things in the first season that just weren’t (aren’t) done. Check out the main title for season 1, and tell me you didn’t laugh at some of what was included. But also note the great set piece at around :29 seconds, something that would have made Casino Royale proud 20+ years later.
This later in the season one goes for even more ‘comedy’ and reduces a lot of the ‘largeness’ of style.
That was a mid-tier, possibly even low-tier genre show at the time, and when you watched that intro you knew you were in for something different (count how many times the hero is undermined in the long intro). They of course obliterated nearly every single reference like that in the 2nd season main title, so it was only fun while it lasted.
TV in the 70s and 80s was very entertaining, but people can’t get past it because of stylistic changes in focus on acting often at the expense of story/entertainment and that each one is very much a product of its time.
People hate black & white TV and movies for the same reasons, and there’s a lot of great stuff from both mediums in their black & white eras.
Cliffs: There’s way more than 2 percent of pre-2005 movies and TV that is not ‘literal trash’.
My God what a terrible take.
I re-watched 12 Angry Men last night. Pretty good. Also re-watched Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure recently - not so good.
I have no idea how It’s A Wonderful Life is a Christmas movie. It’s a movie involving a man whose life is so shitty that he attempts to commit suicide. There is nothing Christmas about that.
Hot take: Baby It’s Cold Outside should be banned from the radio because it’s a shitty song, not because it’s rapey.
It’s a great take
About 2 or 3 years ago, I watched two movies that I loved in 1997. One was Austin Powers. The other was Money Talks with Chris Tucker and Charlie Sheen (what basically got Chris Tucker Rush Hour). At the time, I remember thinking the score by Lalo Schifrin for Money Talks (Mission: Impossible theme maker) was kind of cheesy and dated, almost a parody of his good work.
What I found was that Austin Powers, while at the forefront at the time, had its style so ripped off and pounded into the ground that it lost everything that made it great on a 20 year later re-watch. Money Talks totally held up (even with some odd casting choices) and that score also completely holds up today. Good action/comedy is timeless. Bad action/comedy dates fast.
I have to look away, thread too hot, eyes melting
Anyway, correct take: movies after 2005 are generally worse, tv is generally better, and tv is more better than movies are worse.
I’d change that to ‘most’ movies after 2005 are generally worse, a good portion (unwatched) of tv is generally better (the worst is way worse).
Well you know, 90% of all culture is rubbish. So what? We don’t evaluate the arts by the mean but by its highs. Your point is?
I thought most people contemplated suicide when faced with Christmas.
Hiring some Macedonian like farmers to get this to 100 likes
You’re dead to me
And Don Cheadle was amazing in Boogie Nights. Markie Mark is a terrible actor
Mark is the worst and also a murderer never forget.
his wiki doesn’t reference a murder but jfc had no idea he was such a piece of garbage.
Unless your life is a complete mess, it’s a mistake to choose not to have children.
It’s not a mistake for the planet.
Are we supposed to defend our hot takes or just leave them blistering in the sun? I’ll go the middle-way and just say that I think what’s good for the planet is very complicated and not nearly as simple as “Kids consume things; kids are bad for the planet.”