Major League Baseball (Part 2)

skenes is worth too much to trade, he’s not making a million a year this season. Like the entire rockies or A’s or White Sox players might not be enough value in return.

he’s under pirates control for 3 seasons I think Some teams payup a little more upfront to make it 4 or 5 though, just depends if skenes likes it there or not. Otherwise welcome big city market if his arm is still good.

would look great in a dodger uniform /troll

not liking the dodgers/yankees let’s just buy everyone style mlb is heading toward either Some other markets are doing that but second rate so they’re sucking at it (cubs)

Like BUY EVERYONE dodgers/yankees then phillies/mets/cubs/padres/rangers/astros tier
then spend a little but not enough Blue Jays/Red Sox
tier of we can be good once in a while with strategy getting young players Royals Guardians Tigers
we could spend but we’re idiots when we do M’s/Dbacks/Twins
then you’ve got we’re broke A’s
we just usually suck Rockies
stadium is rekt Rays
if we’re good once we’ll blow it up immediately Marlins

we’re the worst ever White Sox

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if i see another “sources say blah blah blah SOTO” clickbait headline I’m going to lose it. For one there’s zero chance he is going to the dodgers, and at least half the articles are about that. In my discussion group I’m about to ban any mention of it.

ohtani only counts for 2 million (they do not avoid the big tax with him), gotta be some mega bullshit like that but yeah he can get tons of real money now from one the other spending money teams.

edit–figure yankees but red sox/mets have the finances to do it. Mets might have the most money now with a bunch coming off the books this year.

Yea he won’t defer, unless I’ve missed something, his agent has been pretty clear about that. From what I’ve read about soto’s agent and what I know of friedman, I’d put my roll on a deal not even being brought to the table to negotiate. Seems what he’s asking for is a non starter, even if you disregard the fact the dodgers aren’t really in the market for a crappy defensive outfielder when shohei has the DH slot locked up til the heat death of the universe (unless he ends up playing outfield, cant rule that out I guess).

That deferment thing is a trip. I wouldn’t be surprised if something is done about that mlb tax-wise.

Any reason players don’t like deferring salary? Soto has made $80 million in his career already. What does he need money for that he can’t already buy? I’m assuming it’s an ego thing where he wants to be the highest paid player.

Yea originally his agent said he wanted $701 million which is definitely an ego thing, but Ohtani’s situation was a bit odd - reportedly he makes close to $100 million a year in endorsements alone, so another $70 mill is not really meaningful. He was also older and technically injured. If I were soto, I’d be thinking I’d take a huge hit on inflation projected out 20 years.

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I also dont get why you wouldnt defer if it meant a larger contract - these guys only get like, 8 days off during the 8 month long season, and are right back into it a few months later, what are you even gonna do with it all?

Inflation, possibility of societal collapse, etc. Bird in the hand.

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soto is reportedly meeting with the dodgers tomorrow

Per what source? if you dig into it, it’s always “sources say” and then it’s a tweet of a retweet of a retweet of some “senior” sports journalist you’ve never heard of who “heard some rumors.”

it’s on mlb’s site shrugs

https://www.mlb.com/news/juan-soto-free-agency-inside-look

maybe dodgers just trying to get someone else to bid more idk but looks like meeting is happening or maybe they just got an extra billion for winning somehow and dgaf

espn (alden gonzalez) has also now reported soto meeting with dodgers. Passan retweeted it

cubs going to more of a model based approach than scouting they say

let me guess, let’s try to copy which random small team actually made it deep into the playoffs even though baseball playoffs can be a bit of luck. (ie dbacks last year)

Cubs are a weird team, they spend but the owner is cheap so it usually ends up dumb and they end up middling but they spend more than to be middling.

idk middling OF’s getting 20M/year just seems wrong to me

edit–ok seiya had a better year than I thought, him and happ are just in that tier of like ehhhhh when it’s time to pay them

edit2–maybe this has to do with parades and at the trade all the stat nerds going wait a sec all those HR’s he hit in TB aren’t HR’s at wrigley and he only hit 3 for the cubs.

(morel also only hit 3 which is a disaster for him cause that’s the only thing he’s good at, comes down to how good bigge is as a reliever for them for that trade now I guess)

weird trade not long ago there would not have been stat nerds even knowing about things like other parks corners being different could mean a difference of over 10 homeruns from a player a year.

This is standard. They aren’t signing him.

It’s been out of control for decades. There have been years when the Yanks had almost double the 2nd-place payroll, and 4-7x the bottom teams. As a lifelong Detroit fan, I’m against the wild disparity in payrolls. As a 15-year Dodger fan… meh. They need to do more to enforce parity, including maybe a salary floor for the perennial tankers.

Still, LAD should have dibs on all Japanese-born players.

Yea there needs to be consequences for teams like Oakland and the Royals that DGAF about trying to win every year. Look at the Rays. They compete vs NY and Boston almost every year. It can be done if you take your product seriously.

The dodgers spend for sure but one thing they don’t get credit for is how advanced their scouting and farm is. They find players out of nowhere that seemingly no one wanted and turn them into stars and leverage good prospects for favorable trades that puts them in a great position for depth (usually). The infield’s been weak since they lost seager though

Royals are trying now (with their budget) again that they have a star SS, for them it’s just if someone comes up and is really good and they start winning some, they will poke around here and there on effort, ie trading for a few vets at the trade deadline. They have kept their good catcher around (perez is 34, spent all career with them) it’s not the A’s where it’s oh that guy is going to get paid soon so off you go.

everybody’s afraid of being the angels or the rockies where money spent is just dumb. (trout getting injured all the time doesn’t help but I’m really not sure how many teams were trying to sign bryant or rondon at the time for that kind of contract)

as soon as Miami is good once everybody gets traded

even the Rays have fallen off a bit lately; they have made some ridiculous fleecings in trades and are creative but the stadium is dead for now and pitchers keep ruining their arm over there.

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