lolCanada Thread

Does the People’s Party even exist anymore? I feel like the last election kind of killed the dream for Canada’s vibrant libertarian community.

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Domino 2: Trudeau prorogues Parliament until the fall.

It’ll be interesting to see if this sticks. JT is the kind of person to think about what his legacy will be and the PM that implements UBI has a chance to be remembered the same way we remember Tommy Douglas for universal health care.

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Seriously, Montreal? Y’all really gotta do this on the exact same day I book a 3 month stay?

Probably won’t have to worry about winter weather either when the city goes back into hard lock down and I can’t leave the apartment.

You’d think there might have been some lessons learned by the province that got hit so much harder than the rest of the country the first time around. But apparently that’s not the case.

In many ways inevitable. Mask/distancing fatigue is setting in for so many. Schools are a cesspool. At least our medical professionals are better prepared even if the rest of society isn’t.

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Generally agree, but I’m not that confident that the governments have done that much to prep for a second wave. As far as I know hospitals haven’t really ramped up their capacity beyond what we had in the Spring, i. e. I don’t think the hospitals are sitting on a bunch of respirators, etc.

I don’t think anywhere came close to having bed shortages even on the peak.

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I think that’s right.

Caught a possum in my compost again. Global warming is so CYYYUUUUTE. Love them so much.

Happy Thanksgiving to all my Comrades in Glorious Socialist Canada. May your taxes remain forever high and all your health care needs be met.

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Greg trying to make fetch happen.

No thanksgiving in my family but this is the first year in a while I’m not spending it at someone else’s or at a friendsgiving. :frowning: :hot_face:

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They buried the lede deep on that story. This part doesn’t even get hinted at until the very end:

Sipekne’katik First Nation launched its own moderate livelihood fishery last month to be able to harvest outside of the season, prompting the ire of non-Indigenous commercial fishers in the province.

Last week, a mob of hundreds of non-Indigenous fishers surrounded Indigenous fishers, APTN News reported. A van was set ablaze and hundreds of Indigenous fishers’ lobsters were [destroyed](Canada: Indigenous fishers urge gov’t action after violent raids | Indigenous Rights News | Al Jazeera) in two separate incidents in the area.

A man has been charged in relation to an assault on Chief Sack on October 14, the RCMP also said on Saturday.

Police have been criticised for appearing to stand by during last week’s acts of violence against the Indigenous fishers, while Indigenous leaders across Canada have called on the Nova Scotia and federal governments to do more to ensure people are protected.

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You guys should be following this site and their podcasts. Best left news site for Canada. They have been extensively covering the lobster fishery.

They broke the WE charity scandal.

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I am not an expert either but I grew up in Nova Scotia and I worked on a lobster fishing boat one summer. So I have some personal experience.

Politically Maritime fishers are a lot like American farmers. They have some legit grievances with large corporations getting favorable treatment from governments, but at the same time their industry benefits from extreme protectionism and subsidied on many fronts. Their politics also are culturally influenced - the fishermen are rural and racist on average (often racist in an oblivious way, and occasionally racist in overt ways). Finally, they are prone to kind of oblivious conservative political belief system that claims self reliance and small government values, but most of them inherited their business from their dad and they constantly want the government banning other people from fishing.

I am not entirely unsympathetic, but honestly before these guys complain they really need to get a clue about recognizing their privilege and reconfigure their overall outlook on life to the reality of 2020.

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I agree. I don’t think there is any genuine threat to the fishery industry here, I think the white fishermen think they are entitled to the resources, period, and they are going to aggressively defend them. In the same way that I would object to a stranger just taking $20 out of my wallet, even though that doesn’t really pose any meaningful threat to my financial well-being.

First Nations have a constitutional right to fish and hunt on public lands/waterbodies that isn’t normally subject to the same restrictions as commercial or non-FNC. This is really long standing legal history in Canada.

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Issues arise when First Nations fishing begins to resemble commercial fishing and not just to feed First Nations people. Where I stand on this? I don’t know, seems complicated and my opinion won’t matter so I don’t wish to do too much research. I can see racism playing a roll, and livelihoods being threatened due to First Nations fishing growing larger than originally intended by the law thus threatening harvests for non FN people.

They’re allowed to make a moderate living. It’s a Constitutional right that was affirmed in the Donald Marshall decision two decades ago. Nothing about the boats they’re using or the catch they’ve gotten suggests they’re trying to do anything else. They’re not fishing enough to pose any kind of threat to the sustainability of the fishery, as the commercial fishers are claiming (and if you’re poisoning lobsters, you can GTFO with any kind of conservation argument). This is racism mixed with greed (sorry, “economic insecurity”).

The government needs to shoulder quite a bit of the blame as well, Fisheries and Oceans not working with the bands to set up an off-season fishery is just dereliction of duty.

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