lolCanada Thread

I literally wrote an entire post on “well the system for engaging native Canadians on these matters is horrendously broken and lies on a foundation of illegitimacy”.

The point that started this whole discussion, but somehow seems to be missed still, is all these problems with the system are problems of government, not oil and gas companies. I can honestly say I would bet my literal net worth if you polled all people in industry who work in First Nations consultation you would get less than 10% who would say the system works.

I have to say I have no idea how anyone could read my posts and conclude I’m in the bag for one side unless they are simply willfully doing so. But your post is getting all the love.

What it seems like you mean is I’m not 100% on the side of the protestors therefore I am “too inside”.

I have posted a completely balanced analysis of the issue, with insight and sympathy for both sides. My posting history here is nothing but pro-action on climate change, pro-protest as a concept, and I’ve spent 20 years working with First Nations. I am fully onboard with First Nations political action.

I disagree with this one protest and I’m somehow biased.

I think maybe I’m not the biased one here.

clovis, your business, your city, and the economy of your entire province are fundamentally linked to fossil fuel extraction. You can’t not be biased in favor of that industry, and you’ve been openly pro-pipeline for years

I’m not even saying that as a criticism, it’s just a fact, the same way everybody is biased towards whatever generates their paycheck. That’s just how people work, and it would be bonkers if you weren’t biased.

Even though I give you a lot of shit sometimes, I do genuinely appreciate your detailed posts on these topics. However, I will take them with a grain of salt because you’re a relatively wealthy white dude who frequently consults for the oil and gas industry, and you’re not the most objective source for understanding the protestors’ POV.

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@clovis8 Do you have any idea what’s going on with this deal?

I can’t really figure out from the article why the company would withdraw it’s application. You know way more that the rest of us about the application process for these kinds of projects - any thoughts?

I suspect they saw a steep uphill battle to approval with years of lawsuits and protests and decided the political will wasn’t there to approve.

Thanks @clovis8. One think that struck me is that it looked to me from the docs that they had started the regulatory approval process in 2011. That’s a rough sunk cost to give up on.

Northern Gateway that just started construction in October began the approval process in 2005!

Soo…, things haven’t exactly gone super well in the last 16 hours.

Ontario Provincial Police breaks up the blockade in Tyendinaga. About 10 new blockades pop up at various places across the country.

(this was just a random account I saw in a Twitter search)

https://twitter.com/risingtidena/status/1232104172415115264?s=21

Yeah I’m shocked we haven’t already constantly seen competing Court of Appeal decisions because of the varying politics of the different provinces.

This could be huge.

The US should release a video of LEGO Trump berating LEGO reporters.

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Quebec’s been going really hard in the paint that they’re not racist, despite clearly being the most racist province in the country.

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It’s not racist to acknowledge the inherent superiority of white Catholic francophone Quebecers. That’s just common sense, if you don’t believe me just ask any one of them.

This has always confused me so much. I mean I guess it’s really just lol religion but it’s so odd the most progressive province in most ways is also the most racist.

One more example where religion is always a net negative for any society.

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“Socialism for me and people like me” is perfectly consistent with racism.

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When will Quebecers every catch a break in Canada!

Until we fix the charter they are always going to be snooty dicks.

Happy me day!

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Still 2 hours away you blimey easterner! :grin:

It’s always Canada 'o clock somewhere!

If you’re looking forward to virtual fireworks you’re a dork and you need a hobby.

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