LOL Democrats - Tik Tok on the clock, but the party don't stop

In the last year or so. Schumer has done a total face turn since the Obama era Schumer.

Maybe Trump broke him.

Schumer is probably motivated somewhat by an AOC primary challenge but honestly heā€™s a massive favorite to fade that no matter what. He seems to genuinely get it now, I think Mitch shitting in his face for a decade actually changed him.

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I think you could pick out points after Nov 4th u til after 6th Jan to see how Schumer changed his stance on the GOP & seeā€™s them for what they are nowadays.

Before the pandemic Chucky was regularly attending cocktail parties in the Hamptons with rich deplorables.

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68 posts were split to a new topic: NAFTA

Whelp, I totally agree the Dems are shit but they have been making some progress and this bill is a good one none the less. The most questionable thing is that they took so long but hope they get these checks out ASAP. Its distributions in the correct direction so donā€™t be confused by the idealistic noise.

Re: things changing, people need to understand that ballot initiatives or maybe even laying down in the streets en masse are the only likely paths to break the stranglehold. The people being paid by big business to be politicians are never going to hang themselves.

lol voteforā€socialistsā€ has to be the most misleading screen name on this site

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NAFTA getting its own thread.

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clinton didnā€™t negotiate it. passing it was fairly bipartisan. pinning job elimination on clinton without mentioning that is misleading, even as clinton did a ton to alleviate the jobs transition.

software was already booming before mosaic and IE (lol WWW). it actually required a concerted growth mindset from business to generate demand for programmers and the government to ā€œluckboxā€ into plenty of people trying to learn cobol/etc. by the time i was a cs undergrad, their numbers grew for a decade.

Somebody tell Bernie about subpoenas

https://twitter.com/sensanders/status/1370506337948467201?s=21

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I suppose it doesnā€™t matter, but that is some weak shit.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1372161862830264323?s=21

Manchin still might be on board for a talking filibuster, but ruled out requiring 41 Senators present to sustain a filibuster and said 60 votes was a hard line still. He also said explicitly that blocking the voting rights bill wouldnā€™t change his mind.

Sinema, Manchin, Feinstein, Tester, and King all supposedly not there on the nuclear option with some unnamed others also non commital.

Some of this may be a process, but it is going to be a slow one. Tester is working with a bipartisan group of 20 on the infrastructure bill and says heā€™s committed to that process and working through all available options and working to repeatedly pass bills before addressing the filibuster (although he isnā€™t taking it off the table)

I think passing anything with 50 votes still a huge dog (id put the voting rights bill as a +1000 dog) but at the very least this is going nowhere fast and most of ā€˜21 likely going to be needed to convince the laggards there is a problem.

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Wait manchin said 60 votes is a must still?

But Manchin again made clear he is drawing a firm line: The 60-vote threshold will stay, and no exceptions will be allowed.

ā€œIā€™m still at 60,ā€ he told CNN on Wednesday. ā€œThatā€™s where Iā€™m at. I havenā€™t changed.ā€

Manchin also rejected calls by proponents of gutting filibuster rules to require 41 senators to be present to sustain a filibuster.

ā€œNo, Iā€™m still at 60. OK?ā€ he said.

Donā€™t listen to Joe Manchin talk. Heā€™s a massive attention whore who is good at cultivating an image that works for him in WV. Heā€™s not going to block the reform necessary to pass voting rights, though it might take a few very painful cycles of obstruction to get him there. Iā€™m far more worried about dancing thumbs down lady, and even Feinsteinā€™s corpse.

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I hope you are right but I really donā€™t think we have any evidence manchin will support filibuster reform. I think if we want voting rights reform we either need sixty votes or to win more senate seats in 2022.

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Isnā€™t it against manchins interests for the dems to win more seats? If they keeping winning heā€™s yesterdayā€™s news. At 50/50 heā€™s super important and everyone has to cater to his moronic whims. seems like a perverse incentive situation to me.

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Itā€™s also in his interest for them not to lose any more seats.

Oh look, it turns out the hillbilly whisperer guy was actually a right-wing fucknut all along.

https://twitter.com/jdvance1/status/1372529762271440899?s=21

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