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https://twitter.com/legotrillermoth/status/1644114874794950656?s=46&t=RKQIqRrKzVps835SSEmebA

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Seems pretty discriminatory.

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Counter point: no it’s not

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Women’s sports by definition is discriminatory in who can participate and with good reason.

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We have most red states trying to elimimate the ability for trans people to exist or receive medical care in one way or another.

Seeing the right wing propaganda being spread here once again is really depressing.

How many trans women are competing in women’s sports exactly? I guess throwing millions of trans people under the bus to protect from a few edge cases in lol sports is fine though.

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Also are the people who continue to talk about fairness aware that the foremost governing body in women’s sports in the USA already has rules in place to make it more fair and GASP allow trans athletes to participate.

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Here is a quick test you can do to determine whether it is a slippery slope or not.

Ask yourself the following questions.

  1. How long have transgender people existed?
  2. How long have transgender people competed in sports?
  3. Do the sports in question still exist?
  4. When did this start becoming an issue you saw on the news, and who was driving the coverage?

End test.

Hope this helps.

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As bad as it is in America, it’s worse in Czech Republic. Hell, gay marriage isn’t even legal here. We’re very much behind America and despite that, still the most progressive in the Eastern Bloc wrt LBGT rights.

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Question 5 when was the last time previous you gave any thought to any women’s sports league? Can you name any winner of any female sports league in the past 10 years?

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I watch figure skating, women’s curling, women’s hockey, tennis, and golf. Will watch women’s basketball here and there as well, and watch pretty much every sport in the Olympics.

I still remember watching Melissa Bishop finish 4th in the Olympics in the 800m with the three hermaphrodites ahead of her, and she being just behind the 3rd place one and well ahead of the 5th placed individual. I didn’t know and still don’t know what the correct answer is for hermaphrodites competing in events where they have a distinct genetic advantage. Luckily track and field came up with their own rules and I don’t have to make that decision.

When it comes to trans athletes in sports the decisions should probably be made by national organizations for those sports and not directly by governments. I agree that it being a big issue in the media and local governments is completely unwarranted, but I disagree with the sentiment that Joe Biden made a mistake by allowing the ban of individual trans athletes from competing in women’s sports. That seems completely reasonable, and was kind of shocked to learn there were many thinking they should freely be able to compete regardless of the sport.

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All of sports is about distinct genetic advantage.

I’m 5’8". Should I be upset that I could never have been as good a swimmer as Michael Phelps at 6’4" with hyperflexible size 14 feet?

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Again the largest governing body for competitive women’s sports in the US (the NCAA) already has rules addressing fairness related to this issue. There also isn’t, at least to my knowledge, a single case of a man posing as a trans female just to try and dominate women’s sports(ie the Shawn Deeb). The idea that it is rampant is just totally fictitious and meant to peel away support for trans people in general.

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Can someone who has read this order explain how the case by case thing is different from what sports governing bodies are already doing. Don’t they have rules governing participation of trans people already?

Anyone think there should be some sort of rule in place to prevent obvious trolling (i.e. someone obviously lying about being trans just to prove some sort of point)? Or is it sufficient to just assume that virtually no one is going to do that. And if you made such a rule, what would it be?

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The NCAA basically already has this. You have to have undergone at least 1 year of HRT to participate and have testosterone levels below a certain level. I don’t think anyone here has a major problem with that and to me it seems like a relatively fair compromise that prevents what you are talking about.

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I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but if we extend that argument couldn’t we just apply that to all women’s sports. All sports are about genetic advantage. Should I be upset that I’m XX and someone else is XY? Why should anyone do anything about that? It is just another genetic advantage like height, speed, etc.

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It doesn’t seem that hard to figure out on a case-by-case basis who has legitimately transitioned and who is just being an asshole. Just ask their teachers? There’s like a dozen top-flight trans athletes? I think we can figure it out.

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Thanks. That seems like more than enough to keep the trolls out.

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and there’s the end of women’s sports.

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Isn’t this exactly what people are skewering Biden over?

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I think just the optics of it is where I have a problem. Trans people are already at an enormous disadvantage in today’s political environment. They need allies not executive orders that effectively do nothing besides an attempt to virtue signal to anti-trans voters.

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