I’m a big fan of the Scots and it’s going to suck when they leave the UK. Can hardly blame them though as England is a shithole.
I doubt they’ll be a particularly strong economic force any time soon but socially they’re in pretty good shape and I expect the EU to welcome them with open arms.
Ya, I assume Ireland is turbofucked no matter what happens. That’s just a recurring theme of history.
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As Jalfrezi said there’s a chance that he has a majority of Tories who are not ERG dickheads - but, then, what exactly is their plan for NI going forwards? The basic dilemma, that’s been clear as day for years, is either in the single market or have a border, and it isn’t going to go disappear. So, yeah, fucked.
I think one of the few positive consequences of the size of the Tory majority is that they do not need to care about the DUP anymore and any deal/ agreement on the future relationship between the EU and the UK that will basically let Northern Ireland stay in an economic unity with the RoI will be fine by Westminster as long as they/ you legally stay part of the UK.
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An ‘amusing’ thing about all of this was that my extended family of 6 brothers and sisters who had 14 children between them (me being one of the 14), and now 20-odd grand children, all thought their Dad (my Grandad) was born in Ireland and emigrated when he was ~6 months old.
Thus, when it all kicked off, I was one of several who figured now was the time to cash in on an Irish passport. Except my cousin, who was quickest off the mark, emailed us all saying that after spending a few weeks getting nowhere with the Irish Registry Office he checked in our hometown, and he was actually born there, presumably 6 months after the family arrived.
That was good.
You‘re obviously more knowledgeable about this than I am, but the way the EU usually tries to solve problems like this is to throw money at them. So some form of fund to finance infrastructure projects and lowered taxes/ special economic development zone type BS.
I realize that sentiment on the Unionist side goes beyond economic anxiety, so I have no idea how much money they would have to throw at the problem or if it would work at all, but that would be the way to solve the problem Westminster, the EU could live with.
But my knowledge of the troubles is based on watching „In the Name of the Father“, „Derry Girls“ and reading German newspapers in the nineties, so not much obviously.
All I am saying is that this type of solution is more likely now than before the election.
So was I. The passport takes almost no time to get once you have citizenship.
Once you have the paperwork necessary for citizenship (assuming you get it via family), it also doesn’t take that long.
What takes long is getting all of the documents necessary for citizenship. Took 9 months to get one document from the US State Department.
“Nationalism is back” - oh great
Leopard:
Your face? Hold on a minute, sister.
Land of dopes and tories.
As with Trump in 2016, I’ll say that elections are massive, complicated affairs with multiple independent and interdependent parts, so there’s almost never any one thing that made it be so.
I applied in 2011. Things were different then. Nine months was spent waiting for one document from the State Department (my grandmother’s expired Irish passport) before I could apply. It was made more challenging as my grandmother had dementia and couldn’t get it herself. The process to get the actual citizenship was much shorter than that.
Oh hell yeah it was. Wouldn’t be living overseas full-time without it.
It’s also great because when deplorables go “If you hate your country then you should leave.”, I can say that I have. From there, they say then you have no right to complain. I then respond with the fact that as an overseas American citizen, I have the right to vote in federal elections and state/local elections in the district I last lived at in America. I actually have the right to complain.
I’d also explain the negative reputation of America and how everybody hates their country whether it’s kept secret or not. That people laugh at America because of how stupid they are for not figuring out things like health care and gun control when the solutions are so obvious.
Of course a decade of FOX News doesn’t allow them to understand that paragraph but I at least try.
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@marty was/is right…
Folks here underestimated the Catholic/Irish hate in England… Along with the terrorist labels Corbyn got, he was politically dead, imo.
And every other Labour leader has suffered the same since Niel Kinnock with the backing of the media and establishment.
I’m sad today and really hope to see some light over Xmas, it’s my time to tune out and recharge the batteries.
Happy holidays all… 
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