Sorry I didn’t mean gibberish. I like your posting, I just find it has a unique style. I think you also commonly respond to older posts if I’m not mistaken, so sometimes your posts feel a bit like non sequiturs just because of that.
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It’s not about anything being racist though, it’s about EVERYTHING being racist. If she perceived everything she ever heard to be racist, she would likely be wrong a lot.
Yeah, I should stress that I shouldn’t throw out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to standpoint epistomology. Some parts are obviously true, to the point that it feels weird they even needed to be said, and it’s precisely because of this truth that the concepts are sometimes taken to an absurd degree.
We saw this play out in the discourse around MeToo, a hyperaccelerated version. It got to the point that actual activists and trauma counselors were saying thing like, “Ok, your pain is real and I’m sorry that happened to you, but having a real shitty boyfriend does not mean abuse. There isn’t a reflexive property there between the extent of your subjective pain and any objective abuse, that simply isn’t what this discourse is about.”
There’s probably a bigger conversation about how racism is more of a sacred cow and is resistant to the same analysis (from the same circles I should note; obviously you can find anybody to shit on anything out there) but that seems like too much to tackle.
p.s. lol duh obv example:
Since standpoint theory focuses on marginalized populations, it is often applied within fields that focus on these populations. Standpoint has been referenced as a concept that should be acknowledged and understood in the Social Work field, especially when approaching and assisting clients.[16] Many marginalized populations rely on the welfare system to survive. Unfortunately, those who structure the welfare system typically have never needed to utilize its services before. Standpoint theory has been presented as a method to improving the welfare system by recognizing suggestions made by those within the welfare system.[17]
No shit, you didn’t need a crack team of specialists to figure that one out. And due to these numerous trivially obvious examples, it’s dangerously easy to assume that accepting any standpoint about anything is a robust and valid way of analyzing the world.
My bad again, lol, I had the “being kind” part in my head, but I reread the post you were replying to.
I played devil’s advocate with the joke, as a springboard, so I can’t wimp out now. I made my bed. Yeah, the broken English was cringe af but my analysis was that the guy was going for some Pidgin English style, realized that might be nonsensical and maybe offensive, and ended up with the caveman style. I mean,
the whole point of a pidgin language is that both sides are going “me sell beaver pelt, me buy buffalo steak”. The offensive problem with the Hollywood Indian tropes isn’t the broken English unto itself, it’s that its historically inaccurate; those weren’t first contact trading posts and English is an easy language to learn, and if the native was speaking broken English then the white person would be speaking it as well. So it turns into ‘native can’t learn a simple language like English’ = ‘natives are dumb’ = ‘people who speak broken English are dumb’ = wildly offensive trope. That’s easy to understand even without the historical knowledge.
What this comes down to though is that we’re saying we can’t make a reference to pidgin languages because the assholes and the dumbs fucked it up with an offensive trope, to which I’d say…
…Yeah, fuck it, I can buy that, the assholes and the dumbs win again.
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maybe it was like ebonics
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me Tonto
I don’t understand 90% of the posts I write.
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gotta leave a little mystery to life, baby.
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IME when they send a crack team of specialists in to revamp a government program it’s a bunch of people with MBAs who know very little about the programs they are reinventing and are quite confident that they know better than the people who do.
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but, we have to start somewhere
then we can double back, tweak some shit and tinker for optimal calibration
it’s all a tightrope
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The wisest post I’ve read on this forum in the past month was one of yours.
It basically said “post without caring what others think.”
Carry on.
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This is all the transcript of his latest episode.
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You built quite a cult status here where you could actually post gibberish and it will easily pass. You have an interesting writing style that is both enjoyable and extremely ineffective. I don’t quite understand how it’s offensive to you. I assumed you enjoy that.
I think Joe Rogan is the bold guy from that does the MMA interviews, but i’m not sure.
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Lol should I not be offended by this, especially when people are straight up lying about not being able to understand my simple shit?
I wouldn’t. That’s what i find confusing here.
This is where i’m havingn trouble understanding the level you’re on. You could easily remove all the jokes, the crossing off, the references, the parts where you meta posts about your own posts, etc etc.
It will make them a lot less enjoyable and will reduce the number of people who keep telling you they like your writing style to zero.
You can’t have it both ways.
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I’m not either, but given what I’ve said about standpoint epistemology, that’s not what I’m asking.
What’s the objective truth about being labelled an ineffective communicator?
Yeah but nobody doesn’t understand any of it (except maybe that double negative right there), it’s just some made-up bullshit to deride somebody when you feel what’ve they’ve said is beneath you and it’s, if I may be so bold, quite ableist and otherizing in the ways I’ve seen it deployed.
I was dispatched to a job today, and found myself downtown, staring at skyscrapers. I called the customer to confirm their address and was told 7031 east 15th street. I’d had 31 east 15th
I shit you not, I said, ‘we have to work on our communication.’
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I’m saying, a small part of me still thinks they were doing a bit.
Scene 1
(6ix makes a post.)
6ix: It occurs to me that being kind and caring and accepting, as some fundamental static ideal, is too subjective to strive for and thus an impossibility, and without objective labels for objective classes (racism towards POC for example) people will tend towards their not-kind and not-caring and not-accepting nature.
Them (to each other): Looooool what’s that weirdo talking about with all that gibberish weirdo talk, anybody have any idea?
Kinda brilliant actually.