Jerusalem Clashes 2021

Israel is essentially a state sponsor of terrorism at this point.

They’re the terrorists. We’re the state sponsors of terror. Such as it basically ever was though. Before the Israelis dived off the deep end we were sponsoring others.

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Gosh, I wonder what the far right nationalist is going to do after two years? Probably just hand over power with no objection or trouble.

A far right nationalist who wants to annex other people’s land. Is there a word for that? Because I did not-see that coming…

Our system is so solid that Bennett, who got 5.8% of the votes in the election, might end up as Prime Minister.

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There should be a place that any Jewish person can go. Every place should be a place where any Jewish person can go. Every place should be a place where any person can go.

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Im fairly ignorant about all this but want to learn more. I saw that Cody just did an episode on it. Thoughts Yuv? If you have the time that is.

If you are an actual moron who yells “israel has the most moral army in the world”, sure, it’s important you know more. It doesn’t. I discussed Israel’s strategy of limiting Fatah’s power and Netanyahu’s political survival strategy here.

It didn’t touch anything that makes the conflict complicated. Israel suck and occupation is bad is the easy part. The problem is that the ‘complexity’ of some of those issues is used as an excuse by right-wing assholes to not discuss the simple truth (israel suck, occupation is bad), which in return makes really discussing problematic stuff impossible as people justifiably don’t want to because it’s very rarely done in good faith.

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New super hero just dropped

https://twitter.com/standwithus/status/1399032857713127424?s=21

Little documentary I watched recently done inside Gaza a couple of years ago. Obviously this is just a small look into Gaza but gives you an idea of certain aspects of their life. Note to people that’ll want to criticize her because she worked at RT and works at telesur LOL save it I don’t care, watch if it interests you

At least Israel helping hamas has helped them have a constant boogeyman and a way to mark all Palestinians as terrorists

Glad we give $4 billion a year to continue this shit but not a surprise it is the American way. USA #1

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Not going with “Domelander” is an incredible missed opportunity

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I would have called him Übermensch for maximum irony.

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So this forum has a bunch of anti-israel propoganda on it too?

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https://mobile.twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1399079468132622339

hahah. Wait, wut?

We have a lot of anti-American “propaganda” too, you surprised some of us don’t like repressive right wing governments here? You lost?

Dont worry about him, hes a dumbass fascist

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You gonna point to a single alleged piece of mis- or disinformation, or is this just a driveby?

He’s just giving us advance warning before he drops some incredible truth bombs on the thread.

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I mean yeah, fuck the bible. For one thing, it’s a bunch of bullshit and the other is, I don’t think we should make modern day decisions based on 2000 year old history, but this is another topic I’m very confused about…

My instinctive reaction is to say, no shit Palestinians are pissed. The Israeli government keeps kicking them off of more and more land and taking away their homes. I don’t think it’s any more anti semitic to criticize the Israeli government than it’s un American to criticize any government including our own

Most Jewish people I’ve talked to about this tell me I don’t understand the threat of suicide bombers the people of Israel must endure and Israel is just defending itself. I don’t quite buy that, but have no way of knowing for sure. Seems they have a much more powerful military and are backed by “the” most powerful military on earth. Do they really have to target mosques, homes, and buildings with civilian populations even if that’s what the other side does? If there’s one Hamas target in a building that makes it okay to kill children and civilians?

As long as people believe in holy lands and fairy tales there will never be peace. But doesn’t more recent history tell us that Arabs wanted to break from Turkish rule and England helped them establish this territory? Not sure who was their first. I know Native Americans were here long before most of us were and we certainly were the villains in that scene and the little we do now to make it up can never be enough for what we did

Humans are tribal (and imo evil) by nature. The worst species evolution could ever conjure up. We have forever committed genocides for resources and killed just to kill. But if you’re going to invoke biblical bullshit into the mix, there is zero chance of reconciliation

And what is the real history here? Didn’t they used to get along? Didn’t Jews teach Arabs how to plant and other stuff?

Also, (and this seems the most anti semitic question I have), but why does a religion need to be a nation? I get the horrors Jewish people endured during the holocaust, but I can never get a straight answer to that question. There are Jewish people from all over the globe and afaik, are the only ones who demand land as a nation due to religion. Sorry if that’s anti semitic. I don’t mean it to be. I really don’t understand why Jewish people have been and continue to be so persecuted